Contract Question Aircrew Rescue Swimmer same as aircrew?

Rusk · 08-19-2014, 07:10 PM

They no longer assign airr drops to any aw jobs they get re rated or go undes depending on how they got dropped. I'm at naccs right now.

Diverdee90 · 08-21-2014, 09:14 AM

Haasino I have a question for you, my son is a senior in high school and going to MEPS on Tuesday to take the ASVAB and physical, and get his rating and all that and then be sworn in for DEP he wants to eventually become a pilot. His recruiter told him to become part of Aircrew, what rating should he be looking for when he chooses his rate? Thanks

LT Guppy · 08-21-2014, 02:11 PM

To be a pilot, he will have to become an officer at some point.
Being enlisted aircrew will get him some exposure to the community, but isn't a requirement to be selected as a pilot

Haasino · 08-21-2014, 09:25 PM

As Guppy mentioned, you have to be a commissioned officer in order to be a Naval Aviator (Pilot) or Naval Flight Officer (TACCO). This will require either STA-21, or obtaining a bachelor's degree while active duty and putting together a packet for Officer Candidate School. Having said that, however, boing an aircrewman can have advantages over other rates when applying and going before a selection board for NA/NFO because they're familiar with NATOPS, work closer with officers as part of a combat air crew than any other enlisted community, and are generally held to a much higher standard than many other communities which results in competitive packets.

As far as pursuing the enlisted route... the program he wants to ask for is the AIRC - Aircrew Program. It's a series of 4 series-ratings that mostly crew on land-based fixed-wing patrol and reconnaissance aircraft. If he's looking for a Naval Special Warfare program, there's also AIRR... that's Aviation Rescue Swimmer and covers helo crewmen on the MH-60R and MH-60S helicopter.

Diverdee90 · 08-22-2014, 07:34 AM

Thank you all very much for the info that helps

AircrewDang · 09-23-2014, 08:12 PM

So guys i finally got this AIRR changed to AIRC. I thought it was weird when i asked my chief about why I signed AIRR contract when I wasnt even in the Challenge program which is for Spec OPS. I feel a world a lot better since im not the strongest swimmer in the bunch. I leave on the 29th of this month only 7 more days to BASIC. A friend of mine in Basic wrote me recently and said Bootcamp is like DAY CARE. he gained 10 pounds in two weeks. REALLY!?!? Hasbro just curious what happens at NACCS if im a terrible swimmer and I got lucky to pass the Swim Qual at basic.?

Haasino · 09-23-2014, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AircrewDang

So guys i finally got this AIRR changed to AIRC. I thought it was weird when i asked my chief about why I signed AIRR contract when I wasnt even in the Challenge program which is for Spec OPS. I feel a world a lot better since im not the strongest swimmer in the bunch. I leave on the 29th of this month only 7 more days to BASIC. A friend of mine in Basic wrote me recently and said Bootcamp is like DAY CARE. he gained 10 pounds in two weeks. REALLY!?!? Hasbro just curious what happens at NACCS if im a terrible swimmer and I got lucky to pass the Swim Qual at basic.?

Congrats on getting AIRC! You're in for a long training pipeline (About 2 years in school), but I can tell you that it's absolutely worth it in the end!

As for what to expect at NACCS... check out this thread for all the info.

Rusk · 09-27-2014, 10:24 AM

Work on your swimming everyone who gets dropped in class is because of there performance in the water. Work on treading with frog kick and the 4 survival strokes specifically breast stroke. With a good breast stroke, frog kick and being in shape naccs will be an easy time. There classing people up very fast so you may not have much time to practice once you get there.

08-19-2014, 07:10 PM	#1
Rusk Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	They no longer assign airr drops to any aw jobs they get re rated or go undes depending on how they got dropped. I'm at naccs right now. Last edited by Rusk; 08-21-2014 at 05:08 PM.

08-21-2014, 09:14 AM	#2
Diverdee90 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Haasino I have a question for you, my son is a senior in high school and going to MEPS on Tuesday to take the ASVAB and physical, and get his rating and all that and then be sworn in for DEP he wants to eventually become a pilot. His recruiter told him to become part of Aircrew, what rating should he be looking for when he chooses his rate? Thanks

08-21-2014, 02:11 PM	#3
LT Guppy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,858 Rep Power: 0	To be a pilot, he will have to become an officer at some point. Being enlisted aircrew will get him some exposure to the community, but isn't a requirement to be selected as a pilot

08-21-2014, 09:25 PM	#4
Haasino Active Duty Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,439 Rep Power: 0	As Guppy mentioned, you have to be a commissioned officer in order to be a Naval Aviator (Pilot) or Naval Flight Officer (TACCO). This will require either STA-21, or obtaining a bachelor's degree while active duty and putting together a packet for Officer Candidate School. Having said that, however, boing an aircrewman can have advantages over other rates when applying and going before a selection board for NA/NFO because they're familiar with NATOPS, work closer with officers as part of a combat air crew than any other enlisted community, and are generally held to a much higher standard than many other communities which results in competitive packets. As far as pursuing the enlisted route... the program he wants to ask for is the AIRC - Aircrew Program. It's a series of 4 series-ratings that mostly crew on land-based fixed-wing patrol and reconnaissance aircraft. If he's looking for a Naval Special Warfare program, there's also AIRR... that's Aviation Rescue Swimmer and covers helo crewmen on the MH-60R and MH-60S helicopter.

08-22-2014, 07:34 AM	#5
Diverdee90 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Thank you all very much for the info that helps

09-23-2014, 08:12 PM	#6
AircrewDang Newbie Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	So guys i finally got this AIRR changed to AIRC. I thought it was weird when i asked my chief about why I signed AIRR contract when I wasnt even in the Challenge program which is for Spec OPS. I feel a world a lot better since im not the strongest swimmer in the bunch. I leave on the 29th of this month only 7 more days to BASIC. A friend of mine in Basic wrote me recently and said Bootcamp is like DAY CARE. he gained 10 pounds in two weeks. REALLY!?!? Hasbro just curious what happens at NACCS if im a terrible swimmer and I got lucky to pass the Swim Qual at basic.?

09-27-2014, 10:24 AM	#8
Rusk Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	Work on your swimming everyone who gets dropped in class is because of there performance in the water. Work on treading with frog kick and the 4 survival strokes specifically breast stroke. With a good breast stroke, frog kick and being in shape naccs will be an easy time. There classing people up very fast so you may not have much time to practice once you get there.