Tips on boot camp and dive prep?

[FutureND]

Ya the BECC courses he is doing in the computer are horrible... Long, boring days of clicking through the computer. He should have plenty of free time still, we were done at around 1630 and off on weekends. Dive prep is designed to weed out people and it's tough for a reason. It has about a 40% passing rate. Good news is that very few people fail out of dive school after making it there.

SO prep does their own thing. We shared a barracks with them but that was about all. They don't do the computer classes or anything, their classes are mostly fitness and nutrition related. The majority of people who don't make it through BUD/s prep are med dropped, injuries and all that. But the weeding out process for SO takes place after prep.

[frosty1823]

thanks for the informaiton; i will let him know to practice & i am sure he is trying his best to stay with the school & not quit...

[mike]

Originally Posted by FutureND

SO prep does their own thing. We shared a barracks with them but that was about all. They don't do the computer classes or anything, their classes are mostly fitness and nutrition related. The majority of people who don't make it through BUD/s prep are med dropped, injuries and all that. But the weeding out process for SO takes place after prep.

Yea, it is surprising that they fly everyone out to Coronado before making cuts though. Good thing about BUD/s is all you have to do is survive three weeks a long day and you are through Hell Week and into the "Training phase" instead of "selection phase".

You got any good tips for treading water? Is it more about practice or technique? I've done some treading with arms out of the water but I need to get better.

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by mike

Good thing about BUD/s is all you have to do is survive three weeks a long day and you are through Hell Week and into the "Training phase" instead of "selection phase".

Pretty sure Phase 1 is still 8 weeks long...
And you're just as able to be dropped on day 1 as you are the day before you get that pin. So your idea that once you pass hell week that your "in" is entirely not true.

[mike]

Originally Posted by CTT1(SW)Griffin

Pretty sure Phase 1 is still 8 weeks long...
And you're just as able to be dropped on day 1 as you are the day before you get that pin. So your idea that once you pass hell week that your "in" is entirely not true.

CCT1SW, If you make it through HW you won't quit so you are probably going to get pinned. Side note, how come you don't put in a BUD/s package? 20 spots for fleet guys per BUD/s class, if you fail out you go back to your old rate.

[kforbs126]

Originally Posted by mike

CCT1SW, If you make it through HW you won't quit so you are probably going to get pinned. Side note, how come you don't put in a BUD/s package? 20 spots for fleet guys per BUD/s class, if you fail out you go back to your old rate.

There are definitely people who quit or get dropped after Hell week.

[mike]

Originally Posted by kforbs126

There are definitely people who quit or get dropped after Hell week.

Thank you, I heard that's only turds who the instructors want out. That's what it says in "Breaking BUD/s". Those people still have street cred though for making it through Hell Week.

[Haasino]

Originally Posted by mike

Thank you, I heard that's only turds who the instructors want out. That's what it says in "Breaking BUD/s". Those people still have street cred though for making it through Hell Week.

It's people who are physically and mentally strong enough to pass the tests, but don't have the personality that fits the team dynamics... too passive, too aggressive, know-it-all, not team players, etc. You can't just pass the tests and make it... your instructors and teammates need to accept you or you're getting hounded into dropping.

Street cred? I don't think you realize that most active duty Sailors regard SO's for the most part as just another Sailor in a highly-trained rate. The Hollywood glamorization of SEALs is largely a civilian phenomenon. There are a lot of guys who graduated BUDS and dropped/got dropped and are in the fleet... harps don't chime when they enter a room. So a DEPper telling a First Class Cryptologic Technician that he should try to go SO is, honestly, just laughable from our standpoint. I've only joked with CTT1 about going Aircrew because that's a billet he can fill as a CT, and we're both rated active duty Sailors.

[FlyNavy]

Originally Posted by mike

CCT1SW, If you make it through HW you won't quit so you are probably going to get pinned. Side note, how come you don't put in a BUD/s package? 20 spots for fleet guys per BUD/s class, if you fail out you go back to your old rate.

CTT1***
SW is a warfare qual. As far as after HW, it's just more likely that you will; nothing is guaranteed.

And why would I want to put a BUDS package in? I love my job and I get to work more spooky stuff than NSW gets to anyway.