RPOC and other recruit leadership positions... what does it really entail?

F.S.Richerson · 03-28-2012, 12:14 PM

The START guide talks about "assisting the RDC," implementing good order, etc. but what does an RPO position really involve and why do I not want to do it? (I think I saw Craig post that it's not a desirable position but I could be wrong)

sweetmtn · 03-28-2012, 05:47 PM

Being an RPOC means that YOU are responsible in making sure everyone in your division gets to where they are to be on time, if they are late, YOU pay the price. If someone in your division gets in trouble, again, You generally will pay the price. If you are not good at getting others to do as they are told with out problems, I dont suggest it. being the RPOC makes you a stand out, now sometimes that is a good thing, and many times it isnt. My son was very happy when he went through his PIR and one of his RDC's actually asked him if he was in their division as they didnt remember him...which was a great thing considering how he started! He was the one that coudnt stop laughing!

BKinsman · 03-28-2012, 06:14 PM

Really hoping I don't get chosen for any of the division positions but a bit worried about my age making me stand out for something like that. It makes me wonder if RDCs look at info for the recruits and decide before hand or just do it on a whim once they are there. I look about 18 as long I shave and keep my hair short.

F.S.Richerson · 03-28-2012, 07:07 PM

Thanks! That was insightful, I wouldn't have thought of it that way. But are there any feasible rewards for all this presumably hard work?

asailorswife · 03-28-2012, 07:09 PM

My husband wasn't your age when he went through boot, but he was older and much more mature than a lot of the guys in his division were. However, the positions are usually voluntary to begin with, after that (he said most of the first guys got fired), keep your head down, and do what you're told. Don't stand out - that's one of his biggest things of advice for boot camp. Make sure you don't stand out, and keep in mind that it's all one big mind f***. (those are the two things he tells me to tell anyone going through boot camp).

sweetmtn · 03-28-2012, 08:25 PM

The only up side my son said was for someone that enlisted as an E1 or E2 and IF they could keep that job for the entire boot camp, they usually got promoted one rank up and/or made honor grad. But as said above, most get fired...
Go to this link and read each one, the only one my son said was good was Recruit Religious Petty Officers (RPO) (RPO3, but read about all of them.

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/recruit_petty_officer.asp

Nuke Guy · 03-28-2012, 09:27 PM

Religious PO is nice because almost all of them get a BZ at the end of bootcamp. However, as Religious PO, you will get up at 5:15 on Sundays (instead of 6:00), go to early chow, go to the chapel, and get back at about 10:30, meaning you only get 2 1/2 hours of Holiday Routine instead of 6, and you still have to eat somewhere in there. Our RPO's estimated that they got 80-90 minutes of Holiday Routine every week.

prop827 · 03-29-2012, 12:58 AM

RPOC and AROC are hard jobs and by taking them you will stand out. This means when things go wrong (and every now and then they WILL its unavoidable in bootcamp) you are responsible. Someone going to sick call got us a demerit chit, its your fault. A detail got the division a street hit, its your fault. You could be in a classroom at the time and not even been there but as RPOC it was your job to make sure they knew when and how to get there. On the other hand, if you keep the job to the end, they tend to get promoted to E2 or E3 if they do a good job. If you plan to apply to a commissioning program, it looks good on you assuming you haven't been in service very long, its helpful. You have to weigh the benefits vs the costs. and the costs are pretty heavy!

As a side note, some RDCs choose jobs based on arbitrary guidelines. RPOC might be someone with drill, marching, or ROTC experience; MAA tends to be the oldest recruit in the place, AROC might be chosen for having a good loud voice and rhythm. Those are especially true if your RDCs are big on drill and marching and looking good on the street.

FormerMarine · 07-24-2012, 06:54 AM

Just received our first letter from my son in boot camp. He says that he is the RDC's runner and and gets supply's. Can anyone tell me what exactly my son's job entails and is it a good job to have as far as boot camp is concerned? He is already an E-3, is this a leadership role?

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Semper Fi
Rick

ctraggie · 07-24-2012, 02:24 PM

Rick, it sounds like your son's RDCs just ask your son to go out of the compartment to make copies, grab supplies from the other compartments, etc. It's not exactly a "leadership position" but by him being a "runner" he's probably gotten on the good side of the RDCs.

I was the "clicker" of my division, meaning I would click through all of the slide shows we had to sit through. I was appointed clicker because my RDCs knew I was hardworking, and that I wouldn't mess it up. Your son being the "runner" is probably a similar situation.

FormerMarine · 07-24-2012, 03:42 PM

Thanks for the info ctraggie

OldNavy · 12-15-2014, 08:24 PM

RE: RPOC...sorry to say it sounds like a few folks are destined for a career capped at E4. If you're afraid to take responsibility because it comes with some risk, you'll not make it above 3rd class...if you get that far. Better stick to folding clothes or chipping paint or cleaning berthing compartments...nice safe jobs there. Aircraft mechanic, electronics technician, ordinance, nukes....might be a bit beyond your reach young pups.

LT Guppy · 12-15-2014, 08:45 PM

This thread is from 2012.

03-28-2012, 12:14 PM	#1
F.S.Richerson Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 10	RPOC and other recruit leadership positions... what does it really entail? The START guide talks about "assisting the RDC," implementing good order, etc. but what does an RPO position really involve and why do I not want to do it? (I think I saw Craig post that it's not a desirable position but I could be wrong)

03-28-2012, 05:47 PM	#2
sweetmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,787 Rep Power: 390	Being an RPOC means that YOU are responsible in making sure everyone in your division gets to where they are to be on time, if they are late, YOU pay the price. If someone in your division gets in trouble, again, You generally will pay the price. If you are not good at getting others to do as they are told with out problems, I dont suggest it. being the RPOC makes you a stand out, now sometimes that is a good thing, and many times it isnt. My son was very happy when he went through his PIR and one of his RDC's actually asked him if he was in their division as they didnt remember him...which was a great thing considering how he started! He was the one that coudnt stop laughing! __________________ Proud Military Mom, Navy Vet Justin(MM2n), and Army Vet SSgt Clayton "*Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude*." Thomas Jefferson

03-28-2012, 07:09 PM	#5
asailorswife Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 120	My husband wasn't your age when he went through boot, but he was older and much more mature than a lot of the guys in his division were. However, the positions are usually voluntary to begin with, after that (he said most of the first guys got fired), keep your head down, and do what you're told. Don't stand out - that's one of his biggest things of advice for boot camp. Make sure you don't stand out, and keep in mind that it's all one big mind f***. (those are the two things he tells me to tell anyone going through boot camp). __________________ Sarah

03-28-2012, 08:25 PM	#6
sweetmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,787 Rep Power: 390	The only up side my son said was for someone that enlisted as an E1 or E2 and IF they could keep that job for the entire boot camp, they usually got promoted one rank up and/or made honor grad. But as said above, most get fired... Go to this link and read each one, the only one my son said was good was Recruit Religious Petty Officers (RPO) (RPO3, but read about all of them. http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/recruit_petty_officer.asp __________________ Proud Military Mom, Navy Vet Justin(MM2n), and Army Vet SSgt Clayton "*Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude*." Thomas Jefferson

07-24-2012, 06:54 AM	#9
FormerMarine Newbie Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 7	Question about jobs in bootcamp Just received our first letter from my son in boot camp. He says that he is the RDC's runner and and gets supply's. Can anyone tell me what exactly my son's job entails and is it a good job to have as far as boot camp is concerned? He is already an E-3, is this a leadership role? http://www.navydep.com/forums/images...%20Surbati.gif Semper Fi Rick

03-28-2012, 06:14 PM	#3
BKinsman Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Linden, MI Posts: 66 Rep Power: 13	Really hoping I don't get chosen for any of the division positions but a bit worried about my age making me stand out for something like that. It makes me wonder if RDCs look at info for the recruits and decide before hand or just do it on a whim once they are there. I look about 18 as long I shave and keep my hair short.

03-28-2012, 07:07 PM	#4
F.S.Richerson Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 10	Thanks! That was insightful, I wouldn't have thought of it that way. But are there any feasible rewards for all this presumably hard work?

03-28-2012, 09:27 PM	#7
Nuke Guy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Goose Creek, SC Posts: 63 Rep Power: 13	Religious PO is nice because almost all of them get a BZ at the end of bootcamp. However, as Religious PO, you will get up at 5:15 on Sundays (instead of 6:00), go to early chow, go to the chapel, and get back at about 10:30, meaning you only get 2 1/2 hours of Holiday Routine instead of 6, and you still have to eat somewhere in there. Our RPO's estimated that they got 80-90 minutes of Holiday Routine every week.

03-29-2012, 12:58 AM	#8
prop827 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 71	RPOC and AROC are hard jobs and by taking them you will stand out. This means when things go wrong (and every now and then they WILL its unavoidable in bootcamp) you are responsible. Someone going to sick call got us a demerit chit, its your fault. A detail got the division a street hit, its your fault. You could be in a classroom at the time and not even been there but as RPOC it was your job to make sure they knew when and how to get there. On the other hand, if you keep the job to the end, they tend to get promoted to E2 or E3 if they do a good job. If you plan to apply to a commissioning program, it looks good on you assuming you haven't been in service very long, its helpful. You have to weigh the benefits vs the costs. and the costs are pretty heavy! As a side note, some RDCs choose jobs based on arbitrary guidelines. RPOC might be someone with drill, marching, or ROTC experience; MAA tends to be the oldest recruit in the place, AROC might be chosen for having a good loud voice and rhythm. Those are especially true if your RDCs are big on drill and marching and looking good on the street.

07-24-2012, 02:24 PM	#10
ctraggie Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Wahiawa, HI Posts: 59 Rep Power: 12	Rick, it sounds like your son's RDCs just ask your son to go out of the compartment to make copies, grab supplies from the other compartments, etc. It's not exactly a "leadership position" but by him being a "runner" he's probably gotten on the good side of the RDCs. I was the "clicker" of my division, meaning I would click through all of the slide shows we had to sit through. I was appointed clicker because my RDCs knew I was hardworking, and that I wouldn't mess it up. Your son being the "runner" is probably a similar situation. __________________ Currently stationed in Hawaii

07-24-2012, 03:42 PM	#11
FormerMarine Newbie Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 7	Thanks for the info ctraggie

12-15-2014, 08:24 PM	#12
OldNavy Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	No future in always keeping your head down... RE: RPOC...sorry to say it sounds like a few folks are destined for a career capped at E4. If you're afraid to take responsibility because it comes with some risk, you'll not make it above 3rd class...if you get that far. Better stick to folding clothes or chipping paint or cleaning berthing compartments...nice safe jobs there. Aircraft mechanic, electronics technician, ordinance, nukes....might be a bit beyond your reach young pups.

12-15-2014, 08:45 PM	#13
LT Guppy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,858 Rep Power: 343	This thread is from 2012. __________________ Officers: making simple stuff hard since 1775 ACTIVE DUTY SAILORS - Click here to have your account verified