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11-16-2013, 11:02 AM | #1 | |
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Good insight into life as an undes sailor.
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11-16-2013, 04:57 PM | #2 |
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02-16-2014, 05:27 AM | #3 |
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Throwing my 2 cents in as I am an undes airman. When I got to my command you will get put into a division, probably something you don't want but hang out and see how they work. If your an e3 get a hold of the command career councilor and see what jobs are avaliable to see what you can really strike for. Like me as an example: I got to the BHR (in Japan) in January this year and was put into v4 division (ABF) and that isn't even close to what I wanted. I'm eligible to take the advance test in March but need a rate before I can take it. After talking to the CCC I only had 4 choices of jobs, none in the division I wanted. I could wait and pass up the chance to advance till my job I want becomes avaliable or take a chance with what I Got and possibly get 3rd class this March(going ABF) . It's all really a gamble going PACT. Yes you can "shop" around for the job you want but if it's not avaliable when striking and to take the advancement test you will be stuck as an e3 for another 6 months.
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03-24-2014, 07:55 PM | #4 | |
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03-28-2014, 07:30 AM | #5 |
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is it just me or does this sound alot like some kind of business type ladder climbing?
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05-08-2014, 10:04 PM | #6 |
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IT IS COOL
I usually hear ruckus or complaints or negative feedbacks from some when I say that I'm entering the Navy (which is in 1 week time) as UNDESIGNATED PACT Airman. I don't mind at all. I don't worry about it at all!
Why? Because I didn't want to be in a job that I didn't want in the first place. I wanted an office job like PS, LS, YN, and the like. But MEPS gave me ABE! It is soooooooo far from what I wanted. And since I plan to make this as a career, I want to do something that I'm decided to do. In addition, my recruiter told me that he also started as PACT Seaman. But hey, NOW HE'S A CHIEF PETTY OFFICER after several years. Therefore, I just want to say that every beginning is the hardest and most challenging. And if you want your way on top, IT WILL START IN ONE SMALL STEPS. SO WORK HARD FOR IT ! |
07-29-2014, 05:08 PM | #7 |
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If you are a PACT Airman/Seaman going in as an E-3 does it still take a full year at your command before you can strike a rate?
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07-29-2014, 05:22 PM | #8 |
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Nope I think it's only six months cuz then you've got your time in rate to hit e4.
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07-29-2014, 05:50 PM | #9 |
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Thanks Bloody, sets my mind at ease about going in as A-PACT.
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07-29-2014, 09:44 PM | #10 |
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It's 6 months if you strike for a rate that doesn't require A school. 1 year if you strike for a rate that requires an A school. Typically if you go to an A school you'll end up with new orders.
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07-29-2014, 10:47 PM | #11 |
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Thanks for that Kforbes, didn't read far enough down the Career Waypoint for that one.
Electronics AT - Aviation Electronics Technician Electrical AE - Aviation Electrician's Mate * Mechanical AD - Aviation Machinist's Mate AME - Aviation Structural Mechanic (Safety Equipment)* AMH - Aviation Structural Mechanic (Hydraulics) AM - Aviation Structural Mechanic (Structures) AS - Aviation Support Equipment Technician Miscellaneous ABE - Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Equipment) ABF - Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Fuels) ABH - Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) AC - Air Traffic Controller* AG - Aerographer's Mate* AO - Aviation Ordnanceman AZ - Aviation Maintenance Administrationman PR - Aircrew Survival Equipmentman* * Class "A" technical school required This gives you an idea as to what needs an A school for A PACT as I've seen one for S PACT around here. Last edited by BloodyPheonix; 07-31-2014 at 12:04 AM. Reason: More info |
08-01-2014, 10:59 AM | #12 | |
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A STRIKER is someone who is working with a rating that has not taken the test yet. Once you are eligible to take the E4 exam, you will take it for your rating(let's use STG as an example) of choice. If you score well enough to be advanced, you will now be STG3. If you just pass the test, you are now STGSN. Either way, you are now RATED. The one year waiting period is where they will allow you to go and work full time with your future rating BEFORE you are eligible to take the test. So you would be a undesignated Seaman Apprentice working with the STG people so you could better learn the job while waiting to be eligible to take the exam. This is rare, because you will still count against the command's manning for "undesignated" sailors. They too have a job to do, and allowing you to leave for another department makes the other undes sailors have to pick up the slack. Long story short, coming in as an E3 means that your waiting time is very short before starting your new career field. Hope this helps! |
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08-03-2014, 04:33 PM | #13 |
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Thanks for the info, Chief. One more question: I know Haasino has stated that A-PACT aren't able to strike for AW anymore, and i've heard they cannot strike for AC now either. Can anyone confirm this?
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