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Old 11-23-2013, 09:29 AM   #1
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are there any stories of HM Enlisted and then studing to become a doctor or a dentist?
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:52 AM   #2
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You must remember that the doctors are all officers...you can get your basic college done while enlisted..but you would have to apply I would think for OCS as you would have to go to medical school. Not sure I have seen that one in the OCS course offered...maybe Guppy will come along and have more info.
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There are programs kind of like that, but as far as I know, none for doctor.

I know there's one for nursing, and another for PA/Pharmacology/a bunch of other specialties. All of these involve the Navy paying you to go to college for this degree and then serving a number of years as an officer.
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Doctors go to ODS (Officer Development School), and you have to have your medical degree in order to be selected.
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:37 PM   #5
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are there any stories of HM Enlisted and then studing to become a doctor or a dentist?
Here is one way to go from HM to Doctor

http://www.sta-21.navy.mil/
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:13 PM   #6
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One of the emergency physicians I worked with when I volunteered at the Naval Hospital started as an HM, did his bachelor's while enlisted, and the Navy sent him to medical school once he got accepted. I'm not sure what program he used but it's possible. A doctor my husband worked with a doctor in Afghanistan went HM to RN to DO. You could also choose to apply to the PA program after a certain amount of time as an HM and at a certain rank. That could be less time consuming and the use of PA's is increasing. I talked to a doctor about the benefits of PA vs. MD or DO when I was considering going that route with my life. Her suggestion was to become a PA.
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:15 PM   #7
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HPSP, AMA, STA-21, and a lot more health programs can get you to become an Officer in the medical field.

Look up ODS as well and you might be able to get more information there.
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Old 11-24-2013, 12:22 PM   #8
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Ok, I just want to make sure that I understand this. What I am reading is that after a certain time in my rate and after a certain time in rank I can apply to become something like an officer candidate for nursing where the Navy would then pay for me to go ge my RN and upon completion of my RN I would then have to serve as an officer in the Nursing Corp for a certain amount of time? If this is correct does any one know what program this is and what it is called. Cause that is exactly what I am hoping to do.
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Here is the link to the official STA-21 program, then just scroll down and click on the link for the nursing corp:

http://www.sta-21.navy.mil/program_options.asp
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Ok, I just want to make sure that I understand this. What I am reading is that after a certain time in my rate and after a certain time in rank I can apply to become something like an officer candidate for nursing where the Navy would then pay for me to go ge my RN and upon completion of my RN I would then have to serve as an officer in the Nursing Corp for a certain amount of time? If this is correct does any one know what program this is and what it is called. Cause that is exactly what I am hoping to do.
Yes, yes, and yes. Recommended you get some college credits in before you apply for the program. The program is called STA-21. At least that's the most popular one. There are A LOT of programs that do the same thing to be a medical officer. Just have to do some research. I already listed some beforehand.
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Yes, yes, and yes. Recommended you get some college credits in before you apply for the program. The program is called STA-21. At least that's the most popular one. There are A LOT of programs that do the same thing to be a medical officer. Just have to do some research. I already listed some beforehand.
I already have a Master's Degree right now. I just need some prereq's for Nursing. But I looked at that sight and it said it wanted SAT or ACT scores within the last 3 years. I am 29 years old. It has been over 10 years since I took those. Is that waiverable since I have advanced degrees or do I need to retake them in order to be considered for this program when the time comes?
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I already have a Master's Degree right now. I just need some prereq's for Nursing. But I looked at that sight and it said it wanted SAT or ACT scores within the last 3 years. I am 29 years old. It has been over 10 years since I took those. Is that waiverable since I have advanced degrees or do I need to retake them in order to be considered for this program when the time comes?
I have the same question Yert and just plan on taking the SAT again...should be possible to take it again right? ;)

Did some digging and found this:

Q: Am I eligible to apply for STA-21 if I already have a Baccalaureate Degree?
A: No. As stated in OPNAVINST 1420.1(series), individuals who have already obtained their baccalaureate degree are not eligible for STA-21 and should apply directly for OCS. OCS application procedures are found in Chapter 4 of 1420.1(series).
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I already have a Master's Degree right now. I just need some prereq's for Nursing. But I looked at that sight and it said it wanted SAT or ACT scores within the last 3 years. I am 29 years old. It has been over 10 years since I took those. Is that waiverable since I have advanced degrees or do I need to retake them in order to be considered for this program when the time comes?
I would take your SAT and ACT tests when you have the time and confidence to do so while active duty. It isn't waiverable, and it isn't a bid deal either. Just have to fit it in with all the other stuff you have to deal with.

As for what Deisirae27 said, I need to look into that myself. It makes sense though since the Navy wouldn't need to pay for you to go to school since you already have a degree.
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I would take your SAT and ACT tests when you have the time and confidence to do so while active duty. It isn't waiverable, and it isn't a bid deal either. Just have to fit it in with all the other stuff you have to deal with.

As for what Deisirae27 said, I need to look into that myself. It makes sense though since the Navy wouldn't need to pay for you to go to school since you already have a degree.
You can put in an application directly to OCS...if you don't care about being in the medical field. If you want to practice medicine you need a degree in the medical field to put in a direct application to ODS (what medical officers go to).
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You can put in an application directly to OCS...if you don't care about being in the medical field. If you want to practice medicine you need a degree in the medical field to put in a direct application to ODS (what medical officers go to).
I spoke to an officer recruiter and he told me about programs MSCIPP and MECP. These are programs that allow active duty personnel to work towards a medical degree and then once obtained be commissioned. Below are the links. This is definitely what I am gonna do.

MECP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...ngProgram.aspx

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http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...Assistant.aspx
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I spoke to an officer recruiter and he told me about programs MSCIPP and MECP. These are programs that allow active duty personnel to work towards a medical degree and then once obtained be commissioned. Below are the links. This is definitely what I am gonna do.

MECP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...ngProgram.aspx

MSCIPP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...Assistant.aspx
I'm aware of both of those programs. I know people that have gone through both. However, neither are considered a direct commission which is what I was referring to when I said you had to have a degree first.
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Either way HMYert found what he needed and he's good to go. Looking into the stuff as well since I'm interested so i thank you for that.
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No problem FutureHM. When do you ship again?
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No problem FutureHM. When do you ship again?
December 9th. Two more weeks.
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I spoke to an officer recruiter and he told me about programs MSCIPP and MECP. These are programs that allow active duty personnel to work towards a medical degree and then once obtained be commissioned. Below are the links. This is definitely what I am gonna do.

MECP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...ngProgram.aspx

MSCIPP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...Assistant.aspx
Wow..there's so many programs available. I didn't come across these in my searches. THanks!
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