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Old 01-26-2009, 06:49 PM   #1
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:23 PM   #2
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thank you for the info! Tell me how bad was the pepper spray to the face?
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:36 PM   #3
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Derek (logicalchaos) can tell you how the OC spray is. I'm sure it's not all that bad. I have to get it too, and I'm not even going to be an MP (MA)
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I'll send Derek this way. He hated it.... but I'll let him give you the details!
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awesome lol. thank you
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:36 PM   #6
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Saying I hated it is a far understatement lol. It feels like the devil is pissing into your eyes while a million darts full of acid are being poked on your face. Hows that? The spray isnt so bad during the course cuz you have to concentrate and fight through the pain. But once you end the course and you stand around, that is what sux. The pain last for like 45 mins to a hour and a half. And then the stuff is water activated, so when you wash your face, it hurts even worse the second time! The pain doesnt last as long the second time but it still hurts like hell!
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My son concurs. I asked him and his first response was he couldn't explain it. Then I read your response and he said, yeah, that's it.
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this sounds like fun. Can't wait
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this sounds like fun. Can't wait
Ha ha I'm sure you'll be find. Remember mind over matter!
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does MA get or need a security clearance
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:51 PM   #11
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does MA get or need a security clearance
I do know they need at least a Secret clearance, and for some jobs once you promote higher may required higher, especailly if over seas assignment.
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yes MA's get a security clearance, its just basic though, not top secret or anything. Its just a bunch of paperwork when you get to your first duty station. It was that way for me at least.
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OC SUCKS! below this thread in the MA forum i posted some pics of when i got sprayed in A school. (i titled it - A School was awesome) one of the worst times of my life! but all in all, school was a lot of fun.
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I'm really hoping I get an MA rating. I see my recruiter tomaro and I'm going to tell him MA or I'm postponing till I can get the rating. My buddy is in the airforce for Security Forces and said the OC spray was hell lol
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When I was in MA was not all that great. I loved being military police but now I kind of wish I would have chosen another rate. It is really hard to move up as a MA and the rate is so backstabbing its crazy! But everyone told me the same thing and I still did it and I loved it! You just have to watch out for number one, no one is your friend when you are an MA. But good luck and I hope all goes well!
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When I was in MA was not all that great. I loved being military police but now I kind of wish I would have chosen another rate. It is really hard to move up as a MA and the rate is so backstabbing its crazy! But everyone told me the same thing and I still did it and I loved it! You just have to watch out for number one, no one is your friend when you are an MA. But good luck and I hope all goes well!
I wanna get a good base and back round for my future law enforcement career lol but what do you mean "backstabbing"? and no one is your friend?? lol
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MA's always seem like they're against everyone, even their co workers... im a very friendly person, i thought i had a lot of friends, but i was used, talked about, and a lot of negative shit went on. I did like the job, i just hated doing it for the military. Law enforcement is great, but a lot of bases do anti terrorism force protection, and you dont do much police work, so keep that in mind too.
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Reading this just makes me really anxious and edgy... OC Spray, I'm sure I can get over.. Feeling like everyone is backstabbing, not sure how to take that one. o.O
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It just sucks when you are at a base and you think you build up this friendship with your fellow MA's and then when something goes down, no one has your back. If you are not buddy buddy with your Chief or First class, you are going to get sucky evals, thats just the way it works being a MA. As far as not doing much police work, it just depends on the base you are at. I did anti terrorism stuff and police work, it just depended what post I was on that day.
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It just sucks when you are at a base and you think you build up this friendship with your fellow MA's and then when something goes down, no one has your back.
I'm not going MA, but I am former law enforcement... when you say nobody has your back, are you talking administratively, like someone f**ks up and all your buddies throw you under the bus? Or do you literally mean when shit goes down on the street, nobody comes to back you up on a call?
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Haasino, I am pretty sure what both of them mean is if things go bad, YOU will be thrown under the bus, so to speak. You need to remember, everyone is looking out for number one, themselves, others dont want anything bad on their evals or file to screw up their careers. Unfortunetly, it will be that way in EVERY rate in the navy, so be prepared... If you need backup on a call they will be there, to do their job, thats about it.
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I just mean administratively, on the streets everyone wants action so they will be there in a heart beat. But when it comes down to eval time or when something goes wrong, if you do not have friends in high places, you are screwed.
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You have to get a secret clearance but if you guard the nukes then you have to get a top secret.
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what kind of training/screening/processing do you have to endure for Top Secret?
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It's the same SF-86 background packet you filled out for a Secret Clearance, but with a few of the sections going back 10 years instead of 7. For a Secret, they generally just check national and local law enforcement databases for law violations or police contacts and check your credit... if there's something odd about your work history, they might call your employers to verify what you put.

For Top Secret, they do all that, plus you will met in-person with a background investigator who will go over your packet with you and ask additional questions... that investigator will then talk in-person to your family, neighbors, teachers, classmates, and visit each of your past workplaces to talk to former coworkers and bosses. The investigator will also talk to the friends you listed as references in your SF-86, but they know you would only list positive references, so they'll generally just note what they say and then ask that reference for several other references not listed whom they can track down and talk to.
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Question Tons of Master At Arms questions

I've got a few questions about MA's if ya'll got the time to answer them.

1- What exactly does an MA do? I've read the list of responsibilities on about.com about 200 times and still don't get it.

2- On ships, do we just stand around guarding areas and standing watch? Or, do we respond to disturbances such as contraband reports, fights, etc. etc.

3- At CONUS and OCONUS bases that are generally not in a war zone or near one (Spain, Italy, Greece) do we assume the duties of a civilian police officer or do we stand around a gate?

4- In the event we are deployed to a war zone or near one (Afghanistan, Bahrain) what would our job there entail?

6- Is the MA rate everything you thought it would be? For example, I've got the mentality that at times, it will be menial work guarding posts and areas watching paint dry and grass grows. I also understand that as I advance, I will get more responsibility such as law-enforcement and things of the sort.

7- If you could go back to the minute you chose your rate, all things equal, would you have chosen a different rate? If so, would it be because you hate the MA rate, or because you find the other rate much cooler/better?

Thank you all for taking the time to answer my questions. If these have been asked and answered before, I apologize (I used the search function, I promise!). I believe future MA's after myself could also use this information.
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My son is a MA2 in the reserves now but when active he did patrols of the base he was assigned at. In reserves if deployed to a war zone they usually do detainee ops (jailors), or can provide personal security to visiting dignitaries. To the best of my knowledge very few MAs serve on ships.
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1. MA's do a lot depending on the base you go to. The base I was stationed at I was military police and I stood guard duty. You will be a police officer, sentry at a gate, detainee ops (guard prisoners). You will do all the things a police officer will do depending on the base you are at.
2.I was never stationed on a ship but MA's do not go on ships to often. But from what I am told, you dont do very much.
3. CONUS bases you mostly do police work, OCONUS bases you will do both.
4. 99.9% you will no be deployed to a war zone, you have to choose to go as a Master at Arms. But you will do whatever they tell you to.
5. The job really wasnt what I thought it would be. I thought I would be doing all law enforcement but that wasnt case. I still loved the job but there is a lot more to being a MA then just law enforcement.
6. With all things considered I still would have been a MA. I loved the job and I loved the people I worked with. I think the only reason I would have picked differently knowing what I know now is that MA's get sent to bases that familys cannot go to more often than other rates. So if I would have known that, I still would have been a MA .
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