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Old 10-19-2015, 02:22 PM   #1
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Default Didn't Get CTN, Forced to take ET instead

There's no way around it. My recruiter has said that CTN3 is still closed for conversion and my best bet would be to take ET3. Does anyone know much about the ET rating? Any reserve duty stations out there for this rate? I'm hoping I can get an NEC that deals with IT related systems. Feeling kinda morbid...
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Old 10-19-2015, 04:38 PM   #2
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There's no way around it. My recruiter has said that CTN3 is still closed for conversion and my best bet would be to take ET3. Does anyone know much about the ET rating? Any reserve duty stations out there for this rate? I'm hoping I can get an NEC that deals with IT related systems. Feeling kinda morbid...
ET's don't touch IT gear. If you can get IT go for it.

ET's are split between comms and radar gear (although they probably will work on both at some point if you're AD or mobilized). So for example, IT's use the radio gear, but all those transmitters, antennas, etc, all belong to the ET's. They maintain it and troubleshoot it; the IT's just get to push some buttons.

Radar gear that doesn't include anything FC related also goes to the ET's. So your search radars, navigation, air search, stuff like that. Anything that has to do with Fire Control (tracking stuff and proceeding to blow it up) falls to the FC's.

I'd say consider CTM but I don't believe the SELRES has any. Since you have a pretty unique situation, have you shopped around the other services? The Navy (as much as I love it) isn't the only game in town when it comes to cyber operations or IT stuff. It would feel weird as hell putting on a different uniform, but it depends how far you're willing to go to get what you're after.

I've also mentioned this to a few other guys, but you don't need the military to teach you information security. CEH, CISSP, CCNA (with/without security), are all totally obtainable without the Navy's help and will get you a job doing it and making wads of cash in no time. If you still have veterans benefits then you might be able to get Uncle Sam to pay for some of those.

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Old 10-20-2015, 08:44 AM   #3
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ET's don't touch IT gear. If you can get IT go for it.

I'd say consider CTM but I don't believe the SELRES has any. Since you have a pretty unique situation, have you shopped around the other services? The Navy (as much as I love it) isn't the only game in town when it comes to cyber operations or IT stuff. It would feel weird as hell putting on a different uniform, but it depends how far you're willing to go to get what you're after.

I've also mentioned this to a few other guys, but you don't need the military to teach you information security. CEH, CISSP, CCNA (with/without security), are all totally obtainable without the Navy's help and will get you a job doing it and making wads of cash in no time. If you still have veterans benefits then you might be able to get Uncle Sam to pay for some of those.

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I would have to go back to Basic with any other service. Plus I strongly believe that Naval training is superior to the other branches lol. I'm just taking my quickest chance of getting back into the Navy because I'm hurting financially out here. I've already waited two years for CTN3 to open up but due to so many E-3's converting over and getting E-4 out of A school, I can't convert over. Plus, there aren't any PRISE-R reservations open for me to convert to damn near anything. I'm a direct convert to ET, so I don't have to go to school. February, I'll be taking the exam with a possible 49% chance of making Second Class. Hopefully I make it first time up.

As far as certifications go, I'll have my CCNA R/S and CCNA Sec by February as it is in my degree plan. I will eventually want the CISSP but not without the experience. Same thing with the CEH. Hell, I wanted CTN because it would help me to build the experience required to take the CISSP lol. Before I take the CEH, I want to learn the nitty-gritty of the Windows OS. I know I could pass the CEH right now but there isn't any rush.

No matter what, as soon as I make E-5 and accrued the two or three years of TIR, I'll cross rate to CTN. Also, the only reason I thought that ETs possibly worked with IT systems is because some of the NECs for IT are available to ETs. Most of those NECs say that ETs have to be sub qual'd except for 1654 and 1678. Outside of those, I don't see a NOSC letting me get NECs that deal with me going on a ship when there aren't any ships for me to get stationed on. At least I don't think there are.
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There's no way around it. My recruiter has said that CTN3 is still closed for conversion and my best bet would be to take ET3. Does anyone know much about the ET rating? Any reserve duty stations out there for this rate? I'm hoping I can get an NEC that deals with IT related systems. Feeling kinda morbid...
Hey,

Quick question, are you trying to convert or are you coming in straight out of DEP? My assumption was conversion as you said CTN3 which I believe is correct that CTN3 is at the appropriate manning level. I however am converting to CTN but I am only and E-3 so maybe that is why.

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Quick question, are you trying to convert or are you coming in straight out of DEP? My assumption was conversion as you said CTN3 which I believe is correct that CTN3 is at the appropriate manning level. I however am converting to CTN but I am only and E-3 so maybe that is why.

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He's a prior service guy. So a little different situation.

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Ah gotcha CTT1. Yeah tough situation as they are not letting many prior enlisted in at the moment at least from everything I have heard.

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Ah gotcha CTT1. Yeah tough situation as they are not letting many prior enlisted in at the moment at least from everything I have heard.

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Most definitely a tough situation. I'm prior enlisted and I'm going into the reserves. They only want 4 CTN3s in the reserves whereas there are 40+. If I were an E-5, they'd let me convert with no problem.
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Most definitely a tough situation. I'm prior enlisted and I'm going into the reserves. They only want 4 CTN3s in the reserves whereas there are 40+. If I were an E-5, they'd let me convert with no problem.
Can always take a rate then drop an RC/RC conversion request down the line.
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I hope everything works out for you. If I were in your position I would take ET and pick up E-5 then try to convert over in a couple years. Cyber is growing and will be a huge part of the Navy's future. Sorry you have had to wait so long to get what you want with no luck. I actually am one of those E-3s converting over that your talking about. You know what they say, "Choose your rate, choose your fate." I came into the Navy 4 years ago wanting to be a Nuke but duse to politics I did not get it and I am thankful for that now. After getting denied Nuke, I wanted to be a CTN as my recruiter was a CTM and had talked to me about the CTN path. Well it was not available at MEPS and instead of pushing harder for it, I settled for HM. Fast forward 4 years later and I am an E-3 with no NJPs or any trouble at all for that matter and I have scored fairly well on my advancement exams. Because HM advancement is so tough, I have ended up missing E-4 by just a few points the last 4 cycles. I am fortunate enough that I got the opportunity to convert to something I have wanted to do for the last 4 years ago. Don't get me wrong, HM is a great rate with a very honorable history but it just isn't and never was for me. Sincerely though, this may be the opportunity you get at coming back into the Navy so I would jump on it and try a conversion later. I wish you the best of luck and maybe we will see each other out in the fleet sometime.
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