How does striking for a job work?

SN-Harp · 08-31-2012, 08:21 AM

Anybody start as a SN?
Everything I've been reading and the contract itself doesn't look so great as a rate. I got a 70 on the asvab and I know about the quotas the recruiters have to fill. I'm also going in as an E-3 if that makes any difference. I want to be a HM, when I went to pick my job I asked for the rate but they told me SN was the only rate open. What I'm trying to find out is how likely it is to strike for a job and get it? I understand that it depends on where one is at and what rate is in need at that location. Any insight would be helpful.

davyinthenavy · 08-31-2012, 08:32 AM

I am in the same boat. I did well on the asvab and also going in as E3 but I am Airman. The Master Chief in my district told me that 6 months in they will put you up for the E4 exam at wich point you have to have a rateing. I am wanting to go AW so we will see how this all plays out. Best advise I have heard is to get that DAR put in to get your desired rateing before you ship.

FutureND · 08-31-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by davyinthenavy

I am in the same boat. I did well on the asvab and also going in as E3 but I am Airman. The Master Chief in my district told me that 6 months in they will put you up for the E4 exam at wich point you have to have a rateing. I am wanting to go AW so we will see how this all plays out. Best advise I have heard is to get that DAR put in to get your desired rateing before you ship.

I feel that it is important to stress that after 6 months you MAY be able to take the exam for E4, and that for that you MUST have a job. It is very possible that 6 months comes and goes without you being able to take the exam and without you having a rating.

F/S-MARodriguez · 08-31-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by davyinthenavy

I am in the same boat. I did well on the asvab and also going in as E3 but I am Airman. The Master Chief in my district told me that 6 months in they will put you up for the E4 exam at wich point you have to have a rateing. I am wanting to go AW so we will see how this all plays out. Best advise I have heard is to get that DAR put in to get your desired rateing before you ship.

6 months in you are ELIGIBLE to take the test. You'll spend your first 3 months or so in training. The next 3 months you'll be getting your qualifications, learning the job, and all that good stuff.

That makes 6 months and you 1- don't have a job to test for and 2- haven't gone through an A-school. This means you won't be taking that test.

A more realistic timeframe to make 3rd Class Petty Officer for a PACT is about 1 year. I've heard people tell me some commands make you stay undesignated for 2 years before you're even allowed to request a rating.

It's a shame you couldn't pick your job but definitely go with a DAR request.

DonaldBrown · 08-31-2012, 10:11 AM

I'm going in as a seaman too and hope to be able to eventually get hm or ac. I scored well enough on my ASVAB to get both but neither were available.

SN-Harp · 08-31-2012, 01:20 PM

Thanks for the info.

kforbs126 · 08-31-2012, 02:07 PM

I'm pretty sure it's still a year before you can strike for a rate even if you are an E3. You will have to route a chit that the Captain has to approve for you to strike for a rate that you qualify for. Some don't even have to go to A school they'll just learn ojt. It seems a pattern on my ship that most undes go on to be BM's because it's the same job and advancement is decent.

Navy*6AJ4A · 09-03-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SN-Harp

Anybody start as a SN?
Everything I've been reading and the contract itself doesn't look so great as a rate. I got a 70 on the asvab and I know about the quotas the recruiters have to fill. I'm also going in as an E-3 if that makes any difference. I want to be a HM, when I went to pick my job I asked for the rate but they told me SN was the only rate open. What I'm trying to find out is how likely it is to strike for a job and get it? I understand that it depends on where one is at and what rate is in need at that location. Any insight would be helpful.

DUDE!!! That's what my recruiter said. im going in as an E3 as well. and my recruiter said that SN was the only rate opeen. I would love to know what happens as i leave in three weeks.

Logicalchaos02 · 09-03-2012, 05:23 PM

I was only at one command and all the undesignated people that I talked to did not get to take their test until after 1 year. All I want to say is do not believe everything your recruiter tells you, trust me. Their job is to get people in the Navy any way possible, even lie.

TrooperTaff · 09-04-2012, 10:07 PM

So let me get this strait; if i am entering as an E1 SN. I'll be cleaning for a year+ possibly until I even get to "strike" for what I want? Say MA's?

jamjme · 09-04-2012, 11:02 PM

yeah thats exactly correct...coming in E1 you will be working in Deck for at least a year before you can strike a rate...and thats not counting the resistance that you will meet from the BM's...well depending on your chain of command...i am on a destroyer so deck is always undermanned so they are VERY reluctant to let anyone go (ive heard its easier on big decks) but either way, to strike for a rate (not the advancement exam) you must be on board for at LEAST a year, and as an undesignated seaman you will work in deck. Don't look at that as all negative though you will have time to see other rates, how they operate, what they really do etc.

TrooperTaff · 09-05-2012, 02:37 AM

So if I wanna strike and not deal with any annoyances what would you recommend? Deck crew doesn't sound too bad. What do they do? And as long as I can finish my 4 years with what I want I'll be good lol

SN-Harp · 12-28-2012, 08:51 AM

when you ship? I got rolled in leaving 20120123

08-31-2012, 08:21 AM	#1
SN-Harp Newbie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Palm Bay FL Posts: 8 Rep Power: 7	How does striking for a job work? Anybody start as a SN? Everything I've been reading and the contract itself doesn't look so great as a rate. I got a 70 on the asvab and I know about the quotas the recruiters have to fill. I'm also going in as an E-3 if that makes any difference. I want to be a HM, when I went to pick my job I asked for the rate but they told me SN was the only rate open. What I'm trying to find out is how likely it is to strike for a job and get it? I understand that it depends on where one is at and what rate is in need at that location. Any insight would be helpful.

09-03-2012, 05:23 PM	#9
Logicalchaos02 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 704 Rep Power: 78	I was only at one command and all the undesignated people that I talked to did not get to take their test until after 1 year. All I want to say is do not believe everything your recruiter tells you, trust me. Their job is to get people in the Navy any way possible, even lie. __________________ Live free or die hard.

09-04-2012, 10:07 PM	#10
TrooperTaff Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 14	So let me get this strait; if i am entering as an E1 SN. I'll be cleaning for a year+ possibly until I even get to "strike" for what I want? Say MA's? __________________ Alright meow.. Beachmaster Unit One -Coronado, CA

09-05-2012, 02:37 AM	#12
TrooperTaff Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 14	So if I wanna strike and not deal with any annoyances what would you recommend? Deck crew doesn't sound too bad. What do they do? And as long as I can finish my 4 years with what I want I'll be good lol __________________ Alright meow.. Beachmaster Unit One -Coronado, CA

08-31-2012, 08:32 AM	#2
davyinthenavy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 10	I am in the same boat. I did well on the asvab and also going in as E3 but I am Airman. The Master Chief in my district told me that 6 months in they will put you up for the E4 exam at wich point you have to have a rateing. I am wanting to go AW so we will see how this all plays out. Best advise I have heard is to get that DAR put in to get your desired rateing before you ship.

08-31-2012, 10:11 AM	#5
DonaldBrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ringgold, GA Posts: 41 Rep Power: 11	I'm going in as a seaman too and hope to be able to eventually get hm or ac. I scored well enough on my ASVAB to get both but neither were available.

08-31-2012, 01:20 PM	#6
SN-Harp Newbie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Palm Bay FL Posts: 8 Rep Power: 7	Thanks for the info.

08-31-2012, 02:07 PM	#7
kforbs126 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 944 Rep Power: 127	I'm pretty sure it's still a year before you can strike for a rate even if you are an E3. You will have to route a chit that the Captain has to approve for you to strike for a rate that you qualify for. Some don't even have to go to A school they'll just learn ojt. It seems a pattern on my ship that most undes go on to be BM's because it's the same job and advancement is decent.

09-04-2012, 11:02 PM	#11
jamjme Newbie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 8	yeah thats exactly correct...coming in E1 you will be working in Deck for at least a year before you can strike a rate...and thats not counting the resistance that you will meet from the BM's...well depending on your chain of command...i am on a destroyer so deck is always undermanned so they are VERY reluctant to let anyone go (ive heard its easier on big decks) but either way, to strike for a rate (not the advancement exam) you must be on board for at LEAST a year, and as an undesignated seaman you will work in deck. Don't look at that as all negative though you will have time to see other rates, how they operate, what they really do etc.

12-28-2012, 08:51 AM	#13
SN-Harp Newbie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Palm Bay FL Posts: 8 Rep Power: 7	when you ship? I got rolled in leaving 20120123