800 division.

Poet4real · 01-01-2014, 11:19 PM

So I was wondering how does one get into an 800 division in bootcamp. How would I go about trying to join the Navy seals. Basically how can I get into that pipeline if it's not in my contact. And what are jobs that are similar to navy seals that go through that same pipe line. My rate is HM. Thank you for your replies I appreciate it.

sweetmtn · 01-02-2014, 10:33 PM

As an HM you will not be in an 800 division. SEAL's SWCC, EOD..basically any special OPS type of rating goes into an 800 division in boot as they do need special training during boot. You can ask your recruiter if you can take the pre-test for SEALS before you go to boot..they do have qualifications that must be met for it to be in your contract, I think the same is true for SWCC. I know in the past they used to ask if there was anyone that wanted to try for it while at boot..not sure if that is offered anymore..the ones that have been there recently might know that.

camfurr · 01-03-2014, 08:25 PM

You no longer take a PST at bootcamp to get a SEAL contract. You need to talk to your recruiter about getting in contact with your local special warfare coordinator in order to take a PST BEFORE you leave for bootcamp. Otherwise, you will not have another chance for 2 years at least.

Poet4real · 01-05-2014, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by camfurr

You no longer take a PST at bootcamp to get a SEAL contract. You need to talk to your recruiter about getting in contact with your local special warfare coordinator in order to take a PST BEFORE you leave for bootcamp. Otherwise, you will not have another chance for 2 years at least.

So say I take the PST and Go through an 800 division. Then I finally get to buds training. What would happen if I were to fail out. would I be an HM still? And could I get another chance to retry?

LT Guppy · 01-05-2014, 10:17 PM

No, you would be needs of the navy, and they'll put you where they need you (usually PACT Seaman)

Poet4real · 01-05-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Guppy2010

No, you would be needs of the navy, and they'll put you where they need you (usually PACT Seaman)

That happens even if I wait two years to try out for it?

jzhaun · 01-05-2014, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Poet4real

That happens even if I wait two years to try out for it?

If you passed the PST in DEP, you wouldn't be an HM anymore, that slot would go to someone else. So if you failed out you'd get whatever they could find.

However, if you already have a job and then attempt to cross-rate but fail that's different. I don't know if this is the case all of time - but I know a PO at my A school attempting to cross-rate and I'm pretty sure he said he can't go back if he fails out here, he'll be out of the Navy.

Poet4real · 01-05-2014, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jzhaun

If you passed the PST in DEP, you wouldn't be an HM anymore, that slot would go to someone else. So if you failed out you'd get whatever they could find.

However, if you already have a job and then attempt to cross-rate but fail that's different. I don't know if this is the case all of time - but I know a PO at my A school attempting to cross-rate and I'm pretty sure he said he can't go back if he fails out here, he'll be out of the Navy.

Wow. I want to take the PST and go through it. That's a risk though. I need to really think about it.

FutureND · 01-06-2014, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Guppy2010

No, you would be needs of the navy, and they'll put you where they need you (usually PACT Seaman)

This is not true. If you do not make it through a spec ops program you will get the chance to pick a new rate just like you did at MEPS. The only difference here is that you don't have a lot of time. New jobs are listed every Monday morning so they told me I could come back then and see if there was something I wanted, if I didn't see something I wanted they would pick something for me.

kforbs126 · 01-06-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FutureND

This is not true. If you do not make it through a spec ops program you will get the chance to pick a new rate just like you did at MEPS. The only difference here is that you don't have a lot of time. New jobs are listed every Monday morning so they told me I could come back then and see if there was something I wanted, if I didn't see something I wanted they would pick something for me.

And most of the jobs they give you are what the Navy needs now. And if you had any waivers coming into the Navy you'll most likely just get offered Undes as they don't want to take the time to reprocess your waivers. I work with buds drop guys that are getting processed out for injury or waiting to go back through on limdu. A few have chosen to get out instead of going undes because that is all they were offered. Guys with 90+ ASVABs.

FutureND · 01-06-2014, 02:33 PM

I had about 15 jobs on my list. Just about everyone that was in my class who was dropped was able to get one of their top three jobs. I was offered anything from is to cs.

jzhaun · 01-06-2014, 05:21 PM

This may be something that varies with the time of the year. I see a lot of people drop and reclass from CTI, and they try really hard to get them (or the LOAs at least) pretty good rates. Sometimes they get stuff like CTM, AD, GM, MA etc but sometimes all that's available is Undes. I saw that happen last September/October (end of the fiscal year) specifically.

sweetmtn · 01-06-2014, 10:26 PM

When my army son was in Washington DC with the Honor Guard/Old Guard, almost all the ones that did funerals for the navy at Arlington were BUDS drop outs..the bad part for those that get sent to DC in that roll, it is a 3 year commitment, and you CANNOT promote beyond E3 for the time you are there.(so if you go in as an E3, you are stuck there period) My son was friends with most of them as on some occasions they do joint service funerals. The army on the other hand, those with Honor Guard/Old Guard promote very fast as they are all Infantry and do get deployed from there, and generally make E4 in 3 years if they only start at E1, those that start higher, go higher faster.

Breakdancer/EOD · 01-13-2014, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FutureND

I had about 15 jobs on my list. Just about everyone that was in my class who was dropped was able to get one of their top three jobs. I was offered anything from is to cs.

So if i happen to get washed out, which is something I just thought about, I'll have that many options? I train hard as hell but you never know

FutureND · 01-13-2014, 05:30 AM

When I went through yes, there were quite a few options. The same was for the other 13 people in my class who didn't make it. I also know a few other spec ops guys who didn't make it who had quite a few choices. In my sw a school we had 8 people and 4 of is were spec ops candidates. We had an so, sb, airr, and I was the nd candidate.

mfarr13 · 01-16-2014, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Breakdancer/EOD

So if i happen to get washed out, which is something I just thought about, I'll have that many options? I train hard as hell but you never know

Another option you have is the following: take HM, go to A-school. At A-school, you can screen for SAR Corpsman, Navy Dive-Med Tech, and Marine Recon Corpsman (not all may be offered when you're there, depending on needs of Navy). You will have to maintain an A average academically and screen to be able to PT with the other selectees from 0430 to 0530 or 0600. It is doable, and is a way to retain your HM rate and go SpecWar. After you graduate A-school, your contract will be modified and you'll be sent to the respective school e.g Dive school/FMTB followed by Recon school/etc.

HM3

01-01-2014, 11:19 PM	#1
Poet4real Newbie Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California Posts: 14 Rep Power: 7	800 division. So I was wondering how does one get into an 800 division in bootcamp. How would I go about trying to join the Navy seals. Basically how can I get into that pipeline if it's not in my contact. And what are jobs that are similar to navy seals that go through that same pipe line. My rate is HM. Thank you for your replies I appreciate it.

01-02-2014, 10:33 PM	#2
sweetmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,787 Rep Power: 390	As an HM you will not be in an 800 division. SEAL's SWCC, EOD..basically any special OPS type of rating goes into an 800 division in boot as they do need special training during boot. You can ask your recruiter if you can take the pre-test for SEALS before you go to boot..they do have qualifications that must be met for it to be in your contract, I think the same is true for SWCC. I know in the past they used to ask if there was anyone that wanted to try for it while at boot..not sure if that is offered anymore..the ones that have been there recently might know that. __________________ Proud Military Mom, Navy Vet Justin(MM2n), and Army Vet SSgt Clayton "*Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude*." Thomas Jefferson

01-05-2014, 10:17 PM	#5
LT Guppy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,858 Rep Power: 343	No, you would be needs of the navy, and they'll put you where they need you (usually PACT Seaman) __________________ Officers: making simple stuff hard since 1775 ACTIVE DUTY SAILORS - Click here to have your account verified

01-06-2014, 10:26 PM	#13
sweetmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,787 Rep Power: 390	When my army son was in Washington DC with the Honor Guard/Old Guard, almost all the ones that did funerals for the navy at Arlington were BUDS drop outs..the bad part for those that get sent to DC in that roll, it is a 3 year commitment, and you CANNOT promote beyond E3 for the time you are there.(so if you go in as an E3, you are stuck there period) My son was friends with most of them as on some occasions they do joint service funerals. The army on the other hand, those with Honor Guard/Old Guard promote very fast as they are all Infantry and do get deployed from there, and generally make E4 in 3 years if they only start at E1, those that start higher, go higher faster. __________________ Proud Military Mom, Navy Vet Justin(MM2n), and Army Vet SSgt Clayton "*Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude*." Thomas Jefferson

01-03-2014, 08:25 PM	#3
camfurr Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 134 Rep Power: 20	You no longer take a PST at bootcamp to get a SEAL contract. You need to talk to your recruiter about getting in contact with your local special warfare coordinator in order to take a PST BEFORE you leave for bootcamp. Otherwise, you will not have another chance for 2 years at least.

01-06-2014, 02:33 PM	#11
FutureND Active Duty Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: California Posts: 756 Rep Power: 140	I had about 15 jobs on my list. Just about everyone that was in my class who was dropped was able to get one of their top three jobs. I was offered anything from is to cs.

01-06-2014, 05:21 PM	#12
jzhaun Active Duty Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 627 Rep Power: 127	This may be something that varies with the time of the year. I see a lot of people drop and reclass from CTI, and they try really hard to get them (or the LOAs at least) pretty good rates. Sometimes they get stuff like CTM, AD, GM, MA etc but sometimes all that's available is Undes. I saw that happen last September/October (end of the fiscal year) specifically.

01-13-2014, 05:30 AM	#15
FutureND Active Duty Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: California Posts: 756 Rep Power: 140	When I went through yes, there were quite a few options. The same was for the other 13 people in my class who didn't make it. I also know a few other spec ops guys who didn't make it who had quite a few choices. In my sw a school we had 8 people and 4 of is were spec ops candidates. We had an so, sb, airr, and I was the nd candidate.