Cold winter

FutureND · 07-09-2012, 07:52 PM

So I am a deep south boy, born in New Orleans then moved to Los Angeles for some years then back to New Orleans; I now live in North Carolina. As you could imagine, I am used to very mild winters and never had any snow till the last few years living in North Carolina, but even then it was very short lived. I am shipping to Great Lakes in the middle of January and am bracing myself for my coldest winter yet. I know that I will be issued everything that I need, my question is what will I be wearing on a daily basis at RTC to keep warm? Also, I know that my uniform cost al lcomes out of my check, how much is that exactly and is it all taken out of my first check?

acgreen · 07-09-2012, 08:08 PM

Even though I am from Ohio, with a little colder winters than you are describing, I am still a little concerned about this as well. I ship out in January also, which is when winter is at its worst up here. And since boot camp is right off the lakes, it will most likely be even more miserable than I've become used to over the years. So, out of curiosity, I will involve myself in this thread. (:

jzhaun · 07-09-2012, 09:02 PM

I haven't shipped yet either, but I've found stuff by looking around online.

Specifically, you can find the uniform regulations here: http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-np...s/default.aspx

The relevant part for RTC is probably the working uniform. The cold weather stuff appears to be listed under prescribable/optional.

So with the NWO, cold weather items allowable are :
Coat, Parka (w/Black Fleece Liner)
Cap, Knit (Watch) Black
Mockneck, Black
Boot, Black, Rough Out 9" (Men)
Earmuffs (w/Outergarment Only)
Gloves, Black Leather

And with the PT Uniform:
Cap, Ball
Cap, Knit (Watch)
Shirt, PTU (Long Sleeve), Gold
Shorts, Compression, Navy Blue/Black
Shirt, Sweat Navy
Pant, Sweat, Navy

And so on and so forth (the service uniform has a peacoat instead of a parka, and you can also have a scarf or a v-neck sweater).

Now, I don't know costs or if you buy all of it at once (or even if all of it's mandatory), but I hope that helps.

prop827 · 07-09-2012, 09:07 PM

At RTC, you gotta suck up the cold. They tell you EXACTLY what to wear and you have NO choice. If its cold turtle neck undershirts are REQUIRED or watchcaps up or down are required, etc.

sjmcgann · 07-09-2012, 09:07 PM

Talk about southern; my sister and I are in Florida! lol We're shooting for May, after my last semester ends, so hopefully it wont be as bad. We've never even seen snow! XD

Cinders · 07-09-2012, 09:08 PM

My son went in Jan. 2010 and it was the biggest snow storm ever, even the RDC couldn't go home and man were they mad. He survived coming from San Diego. They have indoor training they don't want you to turn into a popsicle.

prop827 · 07-09-2012, 09:11 PM

As for the uniform allowance, you get your PDay issue (the stuff you get when you get there, like PT gear, razor, etc) and you will pay for those in 2 increments to total about $600. Your 1st and 2nd Uniform issue (1st includes NWU's, Coveralls, NWU coat etc. and 2nd includes NSU's, pea coat, and dress uniforms) you do NOT pay for, they are paid for by the navy. You get an extra uniform allowance (about 200-250) to pay for upkeep (dry cleaning) and replacement uniforms once a year.

stevebw · 07-10-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sjmcgann

Talk about southern; my sister and I are in Florida! lol We're shooting for May, after my last semester ends, so hopefully it wont be as bad. We've never even seen snow! XD

Who knows maybe canada might steal all our snow again

I love the winter and usually prefer it over the heat we've had over the last couple of days.

sjmcgann · 07-10-2012, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stevebw

Who knows maybe canada might steal all our snow again

I love the winter and usually prefer it over the heat we've had over the last couple of days.

Yeah, I think I'd prefer it cold too. Florida heat isn't just hot, it's humid; like the air is trying to kill you in a slow and agonizing way lol Seeing snow would be awesome!

AVSailor · 07-11-2012, 11:31 AM

The amount of shit you need to put on in the winter, you aren't going to get to cold haha. But it sucks, more things to use and fold .

stevebw · 07-11-2012, 01:31 PM

Wonderful..

bbrandon92 · 07-11-2012, 01:40 PM

the cost of the initial uniforms are 670 dollars now. we got most of the winter items during the summer as well. Just never wore them. I think the only extra things you get during the winter will be cloth gloves, ear muffs and a scarf. So not that much more.

buick0067 · 07-11-2012, 05:07 PM

Did they get rid of the all-weather coat? Doesn't hurt my feelings any the parka and pea coat are way cooler!

AVSailor · 07-11-2012, 08:33 PM

Idr seeing scarfs on a list. I know there is a Ski Mask, and some heavy gloves. And we already got the Hat and the lighter gloves. And then you have the liner for the coat tahts pretty thick. And the turtle neck. Plus you have to wear your shorts under ur uniform the whole time as well

buick0067 · 07-11-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AVSailor

Idr seeing scarfs on a list. I know there is a Ski Mask, and some heavy gloves. And we already got the Hat and the lighter gloves. And then you have the liner for the coat tahts pretty thick. And the turtle neck. Plus you have to wear your shorts under ur uniform the whole time as well

As in your PT shorts? Weird and uncomfortable...

prop827 · 07-12-2012, 03:14 AM

Yes, in boot you all wear the navy PT shorts under your uniforms the whole time and yes, you are issued a scarf and both thin and thick gloves in uniform issue (you don't pay for those), but the earmuffs, if your RDC has you get them (either everyone will or everyone won't) you have to buy at the NEX for like $3 a pair (its kinda worth it to get 2, they always seem to break when you stow them in your A&B Drawer for some reason)

AVSailor · 07-12-2012, 08:07 AM

Thats stupid. I hope mine doesnt if i got in winter. I hate storing extra shit in my a&b drawer. The more stuff i have to put on, the more i have to get inspected, the more it sucks. (My opinion lol)

& Yeah PT gear under your clothes. you dont notice after awhile. It just sucks when going to the head.

buick0067 · 07-12-2012, 03:19 PM

I was told that the uniform allowance is in your first check so you technically pay for it but, the allowance covers it. IS that accurate?

AVSailor · 07-12-2012, 05:06 PM

i have nooo idea to be honest. I never understood that

stevebw · 07-12-2012, 05:34 PM

I could be wrong but I think the uniform allowance is the money you get to help pay for cleaning it when you need to. I read it somewhere but don't remember where anymore.

kforbs126 · 07-12-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stevebw

I could be wrong but I think the uniform allowance is the money you get to help pay for cleaning it when you need to. I read it somewhere but don't remember where anymore.

Your initial uniform allowance is for the uniforms they issue you in boot camp. You will receive the allowance in boot camp then they'll take it all back because they issued you the uniforms. Your yearly allowance after that is to replace uniforms items needed. You will only get a percentage of the allowance until your 3rd or 4th year in the Navy.

stevebw · 07-12-2012, 06:12 PM

Sorry, but I still don't understand what the allowance is really used for. Is the allowance they give you during in boot camp just used to pay for the cost of the uniform? And this only lasts until you graduate from rtc right?

Afterwards, how much are you getting and what is there that may need to be replaced? Thanks!

kforbs126 · 07-12-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stevebw

Sorry, but I still don't understand what the allowance is really used for. Is the allowance they give you during in boot camp just used to pay for the cost of the uniform? And this only lasts until you graduate from rtc right?

Afterwards, how much are you getting and what is there that may need to be replaced? Thanks!

It's a 1 time allowance to cover the costs of uniforms when in boot camp. You will then get it once a year on your anniversary of coming into the Navy to replace items you need or that need replaced. I think for the first few yearly payments it's only around $200ish.

AVSailor · 07-12-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kforbs126

It's a 1 time allowance to cover the costs of uniforms when in boot camp. You will then get it once a year on your anniversary of coming into the Navy to replace items you need or that need replaced. I think for the first few yearly payments it's only around $200ish.

What if you are discharged and re enlist? lol

prop827 · 07-13-2012, 12:38 PM

You get a uniform allowance to help pay for cleaning and replacement uniforms. You get it once a year, and you will get it in boot. And btw, A&B drawers can be inspected by RDCs for contraband, but they are NOT inspectable during your standard inspections, they are personal use drawers. Its where you store all your personal gear (soap, letters, wallets, bibles, etc)

07-09-2012, 07:52 PM	#1
FutureND Active Duty Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: California Posts: 756 Rep Power: 140	Cold winter So I am a deep south boy, born in New Orleans then moved to Los Angeles for some years then back to New Orleans; I now live in North Carolina. As you could imagine, I am used to very mild winters and never had any snow till the last few years living in North Carolina, but even then it was very short lived. I am shipping to Great Lakes in the middle of January and am bracing myself for my coldest winter yet. I know that I will be issued everything that I need, my question is what will I be wearing on a daily basis at RTC to keep warm? Also, I know that my uniform cost al lcomes out of my check, how much is that exactly and is it all taken out of my first check?

07-09-2012, 08:08 PM	#2
acgreen Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Newark, Ohio Posts: 33 Rep Power: 10	Even though I am from Ohio, with a little colder winters than you are describing, I am still a little concerned about this as well. I ship out in January also, which is when winter is at its worst up here. And since boot camp is right off the lakes, it will most likely be even more miserable than I've become used to over the years. So, out of curiosity, I will involve myself in this thread. (: __________________ Future Sailor Amanda Green Newark, Ohio Ship Date: 20130115 (Gunner's Mate

07-09-2012, 09:02 PM	#3
jzhaun Active Duty Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 627 Rep Power: 127	I haven't shipped yet either, but I've found stuff by looking around online. Specifically, you can find the uniform regulations here: http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-np...s/default.aspx The relevant part for RTC is probably the working uniform. The cold weather stuff appears to be listed under prescribable/optional. So with the NWO, cold weather items allowable are : Coat, Parka (w/Black Fleece Liner) Cap, Knit (Watch) Black Mockneck, Black Boot, Black, Rough Out 9" (Men) Earmuffs (w/Outergarment Only) Gloves, Black Leather And with the PT Uniform: Cap, Ball Cap, Knit (Watch) Shirt, PTU (Long Sleeve), Gold Shorts, Compression, Navy Blue/Black Shirt, Sweat Navy Pant, Sweat, Navy And so on and so forth (the service uniform has a peacoat instead of a parka, and you can also have a scarf or a v-neck sweater). Now, I don't know costs or if you buy all of it at once (or even if all of it's mandatory), but I hope that helps.

07-09-2012, 09:07 PM	#4
prop827 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 71	At RTC, you gotta suck up the cold. They tell you EXACTLY what to wear and you have NO choice. If its cold turtle neck undershirts are REQUIRED or watchcaps up or down are required, etc.

07-09-2012, 09:07 PM	#5
sjmcgann Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 38 Rep Power: 10	Talk about southern; my sister and I are in Florida! lol We're shooting for May, after my last semester ends, so hopefully it wont be as bad. We've never even seen snow! XD

07-09-2012, 09:08 PM	#6
Cinders Newbie Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 8	My son went in Jan. 2010 and it was the biggest snow storm ever, even the RDC couldn't go home and man were they mad. He survived coming from San Diego. They have indoor training they don't want you to turn into a popsicle.

07-09-2012, 09:11 PM	#7
prop827 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 71	As for the uniform allowance, you get your PDay issue (the stuff you get when you get there, like PT gear, razor, etc) and you will pay for those in 2 increments to total about $600. Your 1st and 2nd Uniform issue (1st includes NWU's, Coveralls, NWU coat etc. and 2nd includes NSU's, pea coat, and dress uniforms) you do NOT pay for, they are paid for by the navy. You get an extra uniform allowance (about 200-250) to pay for upkeep (dry cleaning) and replacement uniforms once a year.

07-11-2012, 11:31 AM	#10
AVSailor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 244 Rep Power: 31	The amount of shit you need to put on in the winter, you aren't going to get to cold haha. But it sucks, more things to use and fold .

07-11-2012, 01:31 PM	#11
stevebw Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 265 Rep Power: 33	Wonderful..

07-11-2012, 01:40 PM	#12
bbrandon92 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 72 Rep Power: 14	the cost of the initial uniforms are 670 dollars now. we got most of the winter items during the summer as well. Just never wore them. I think the only extra things you get during the winter will be cloth gloves, ear muffs and a scarf. So not that much more.

07-11-2012, 05:07 PM	#13
buick0067 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 78 Rep Power: 14	Did they get rid of the all-weather coat? Doesn't hurt my feelings any the parka and pea coat are way cooler!

07-11-2012, 08:33 PM	#14
AVSailor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 244 Rep Power: 31	Idr seeing scarfs on a list. I know there is a Ski Mask, and some heavy gloves. And we already got the Hat and the lighter gloves. And then you have the liner for the coat tahts pretty thick. And the turtle neck. Plus you have to wear your shorts under ur uniform the whole time as well

07-12-2012, 03:14 AM	#16
prop827 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 71	Yes, in boot you all wear the navy PT shorts under your uniforms the whole time and yes, you are issued a scarf and both thin and thick gloves in uniform issue (you don't pay for those), but the earmuffs, if your RDC has you get them (either everyone will or everyone won't) you have to buy at the NEX for like $3 a pair (its kinda worth it to get 2, they always seem to break when you stow them in your A&B Drawer for some reason)

07-12-2012, 08:07 AM	#17
AVSailor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 244 Rep Power: 31	Thats stupid. I hope mine doesnt if i got in winter. I hate storing extra shit in my a&b drawer. The more stuff i have to put on, the more i have to get inspected, the more it sucks. (My opinion lol) & Yeah PT gear under your clothes. you dont notice after awhile. It just sucks when going to the head.

07-12-2012, 03:19 PM	#18
buick0067 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 78 Rep Power: 14	I was told that the uniform allowance is in your first check so you technically pay for it but, the allowance covers it. IS that accurate?

07-12-2012, 05:06 PM	#19
AVSailor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 244 Rep Power: 31	i have nooo idea to be honest. I never understood that

07-12-2012, 05:34 PM	#20
stevebw Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 265 Rep Power: 33	I could be wrong but I think the uniform allowance is the money you get to help pay for cleaning it when you need to. I read it somewhere but don't remember where anymore.

07-12-2012, 06:12 PM	#22
stevebw Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 265 Rep Power: 33	Sorry, but I still don't understand what the allowance is really used for. Is the allowance they give you during in boot camp just used to pay for the cost of the uniform? And this only lasts until you graduate from rtc right? Afterwards, how much are you getting and what is there that may need to be replaced? Thanks!

07-13-2012, 12:38 PM	#25
prop827 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 71	You get a uniform allowance to help pay for cleaning and replacement uniforms. You get it once a year, and you will get it in boot. And btw, A&B drawers can be inspected by RDCs for contraband, but they are NOT inspectable during your standard inspections, they are personal use drawers. Its where you store all your personal gear (soap, letters, wallets, bibles, etc)