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Old 11-18-2013, 08:29 AM   #1
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So I've been told that it is "easier" to advance rank in some rates compared to others...any particular requirements to advance from E-1 to E-3 during bootcamp? Is HM more challenging to rank up in? Is ranking up based solely on merit? I'm E-1 going in however, I had my PQS signed off already, after only DEPPING in two months ago today. I am the Recruit Education Petty Officer for my office so I know my material very well. Just wondering what it takes to advance
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:54 AM   #2
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HM is one of the hardest rates to advance. A lot of people and it takes a long time to advance.
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:53 AM   #3
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It is VERY rare to advance 2 levels in bootcamp...but you can advance prior to going if you get a certain amount of people to enlist before you go. So if you talk to your recruiter, see if you have time to get others to sign up and then you can go to boot as an E2. Then it is just a matter of time in grade to get to E3. As far as advancing higher..you will qualify to advance to E4 after a while just for time in grade, but you will have to test for it, and then there has to be the numbers they need. It works on a percentage. Lets say they need 100 new E4 HM's, and 130 pass the test...those with the highest scores, AND longer time in, AND points from like having done volunteer work or taken college classes online that year, etc. So only 100 will be promoted, the others will have to wait and test again on the next go around. Hope this helps!
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Thanks sweetmtn that helps
Im just nervous because i'm not really all that book smart, just a hard worker, big studier so hopefully I'll get the numbers they need to advance. Thanks again!
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Yeah, you'll probably see it when you go to bootcamp - there are a lot of E2 or E3 HMs working at medical there. They weren't new arrivals either, some had been to a school etc come back for several years. The bigger the rate is, the harder it is to advance.
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HM is one of the hardest rates to advance. A lot of people and it takes a long time to advance.
Well...doesn't that suck for me. Any indication of advancement for HMDAs though?
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Well...doesn't that suck for me. Any indication of advancement for HMDAs though?
Its all the same rate.
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Just know that it is automatic to E3(unless you screw up), just need the time in grade to get there...advancing beyond that is all about testing, performance, outside work, ie: community service, online college etc, and how you do on your evaulations.
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Just know that it is automatic to E3(unless you screw up), just need the time in grade to get there...advancing beyond that is all about testing, performance, outside work, ie: community service, online college etc, and how you do on your evaulations.
The greater the competition the better i perform. Doesn't stop me from being a worry wort while I have nothing to do but WAIT

Going to my recruiter tomorrow to ask for a DAR. Long shots sometimes pay off right?
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Advancement from E1-E3 is automatic provided you do not screw up for some reason. If you come in as E1 you have to wait 9 months and then you automatically put on E2, then wait another 9 months and you put on E3 and then wait another 6 months and you can put on E4. Now the catch between E3 and E4 is that you take an advancement exam and the exam plus your evaluations, award points, PNA points, education points, time in rate, etc all get calculated into a Final Multiple. Say the final multiple is 120.3 points for E4 then you have to at least score 120.3 between all of the factors I stated. An 80 is the highest score you can get on the exam but is extremely hard. The other caveat is that you only have to wait 6 months to put on E4. So say you take the March exam, results will not come out until sometime in June roughly and you put the rank on shortly after that. If you put on E3 in December or January then you would be eligible to take the exam because you would not put the rank on until June or July anyways. Advancement as a corpsman is very tough though, I can attest to that. I am a 4 year E3 because advancement is so hard.
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:44 PM   #11
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Where have you been stationed jabONE?
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For OP-SEC purposes, I will not state specifically where I have been or where I am currently but I can tell you that I have been at a small clinic as well as worked at one of the big hospitals. Never been 8404 though. 0000 for me.
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BTW Just wanted to drop my little bit of knowledge.

While all you guys are correct as far as the waiting time from E-1 to E-3 and that advancement is automatic, we have to make sure we specify that that is for ACTIVE DUTY only. Reserve personnel actually have to put in for their advancement with personnel and sign documents in order to advance to E-2 or E-3. It will be your responsibility that after the time required you bring it up to your chain of command.
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Just throwing this in the mix. It really doesn't matter what NEC you have. One NEC won't give you points over another, what does matter though is the knowledge you'll get from the training. As an HM you'll be tested on everything in the rate so if you're a 0000 you still have to know radiology, surgery, anesthesia, emergency med, field med, etc... so it's better to straight pipeline into a "C" school coming straight out of A School.
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