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11-18-2013, 09:57 PM | #1 |
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Just know that it is automatic to E3(unless you screw up), just need the time in grade to get there...advancing beyond that is all about testing, performance, outside work, ie: community service, online college etc, and how you do on your evaulations.
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11-18-2013, 10:35 PM | #2 | |
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11-19-2013, 12:39 AM | #3 |
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Have a family friend who made chief in 12 years as a HM. Honestly, if you just work 110%, do the jobs no one else wants to do, and show that you an get stuff done, then you'll show up more than those who have the same rate as you.
My father made chief in 9 years. His whole life was family < work, but he did it so he can support our family. He's a O-3 now and still kicking ass. |
11-20-2013, 10:00 AM | #4 |
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I spoke to my Chief yesterday about advancement in HM. He said it is only difficult in certain NEC's. Your NEC's will also help determine your advancement. He even showed me a recent promotions list for HM's that showed it broken down for the different NEC's. I found a CREO list for HM NEC's and if you are in an undermanned NEC within HM you have a better chance of being promoted. I didn't think you NEC would matter but my Chief showing me the breakdown on the Promotions list proved that it does. He did also tell me that if you are in a a NEC that is labeled as critical you can pretty much count on only doing that job for your entire Navy career. I want to be a HM-8452 Xray Tech, it is labeled critical so that is what I would be doing for my 20+ years and is also undermanned so better shot of being promoted.
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11-20-2013, 10:26 AM | #5 |
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Great info HMYert. We have a new Chief and the recruiters aren't painting a pretty picture of him. I really don't to bother him if I don't have to. Do you remember seeing whether HMDAs are critical or not? I really have my heart set on surgical tech.
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11-20-2013, 10:28 AM | #6 |
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I know Surgical Tech is Overmanned and it was critical. Not sure about HMDA's I will have to look that up. I was interested in Surgical Tech as well but with the manning levels I saw I am thinking of steering clear of them a little bit.
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11-23-2013, 10:24 AM | #7 |
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My recruiter told me if you go in as HMDA, you stay for your entire career. It's possible to eventually get another NEC, but not likely.
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11-28-2013, 02:39 PM | #8 |
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Hopefuly, I don't repeat to many of the previous answers. I just quickly skimmed through the thread.
For all rates you will automatically advance to the next pay grade up to E-3 as long as you have enough "Time in Rate (TIR)". E-1 to E-2 is 9 Months. E-2 to E-3 is 9 Months. After 6 months of being an E-3 you are eligible to take the next "advancement exam". There are only two "exam cycles" in a year. One in March and the other in September. So even if you reach 6 months TIR, you may have to wait for the next exam cycle. Also, I was lucky and only had 4 TIR when the exams came around and I was close enough that they allowed me to take the exam. Now here's the fun part. You might score perfectly on the exam, but not advance. This is called Pass but did Not Advance (PNA) and will give you more points toward the next exam cycle. Why can you score perfectly, but not advance? Well there are several factors that go toward your "Final Multiple" that determines who advances. First is the exam score. Second is your evaluation score. Third is your Award points. Fourth is your education points. Your evaluation score is determined by several factors including work performance, military bearing, command involvement, and community service. Award points are for certain awards you are given. http://usmilitary.about.com/library/...promotion3.htm I believe education points are determined by what college degree you currently hold. Now, the final bit of information. Only a certain percentage of test takers are eligible to advance per cycle. As the saying goes, you don't want too many Chiefs and not enough Indians. So let's say 100 people took the advancement exam. 50 people got a passing score, but the "advancement quota" for their rate was only 20%. 20 people would advance. The other 30 who passed the exam, but didn't advance would receive PNA points. And the other 50 would receive nothing from the exam. In another 6 months the 70 people would be able to try again. I hope that helps and isn't overly complicated to understand. You can follow this page for updated information about quotas and who advanced: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Navy-...r/213190711299 As you can see only 15% of HMs were eligible to advance to E-4: http://www.navy.mil/ah_online/docume...s_Cycle220.pdf
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11-20-2013, 11:12 AM | #9 |
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I received a call yesterday about HM opening on december 2nd...the slot is open but I cant fill the slot because HM for december apparently its over quota from HM already....this is my SECOND call ive gotten to leave early thats resulted in no where so far....dont get your hopes up
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