Muscle LOSS at Boot...?

McHolySOul · 12-09-2012, 04:02 AM

So I ship out in late February, I am a weightlifter and in great shape 5'11 180 pounds around 10% BF. I know that there will be no weightlifting at boot camp, and many people have been telling me that I will lose muscle at boot camp, While my recruiter says I'll be able to keep it if I eat eat eat...
I am confident that I can keep my muscle gains and build even build on them if there is time at boot camp to do self workouts, or is this out of the question? I can do basic prison workouts to maintain myself. If not i'm probably screwed.

thanks for your input!

anlowe7 · 12-09-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by McHolySOul

So I ship out in late February, I am a weightlifter and in great shape 5'11 180 pounds around 10% BF. I know that there will be no weightlifting at boot camp, and many people have been telling me that I will lose muscle at boot camp, While my recruiter says I'll be able to keep it if I eat eat eat...
I am confident that I can keep my muscle gains and build even build on them if there is time at boot camp to do self workouts, or is this out of the question? I can do basic prison workouts to maintain myself. If not i'm probably screwed.

thanks for your input!

I think maybe only on Sundays would you be able to do that...but not 100% sure though

sweetmtn · 12-09-2012, 11:35 AM

Just be aware that you most likely will loose alot of your muscle mass while at boot...my son did. Eating wont help you to keep it, but turn it to plain fat. Watch your diet and you may want to start now cutting back on the mass and start over once you get out of boot and on to your A school.

Bingle · 12-09-2012, 02:48 PM

You can work out after taps, you just have to be careful. By RTC rules you are not allowed to work out unless it's with your RDC's. They don't want you hurting yourself.....I worked out almost every night. There are poles in the laundry room that held out biggest guy (over 200lbs) without a problem.

culp7 · 12-09-2012, 06:16 PM

Yeah bro, weight lifting is my life. I feel the exact same way you do about losing mass at boot. But as far as my plan, at boot I'm going to work on cardio like crazy. I'm looking at it as almost a cutting season. I have all my protein, and other supps set aside ready to be shipped to me as soon as I enter a-school. When you look at training as a whole, it wont really take that long to make up for the lost gains over 2 months.

FutureND · 12-09-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by McHolySOul

So I ship out in late February, I am a weightlifter and in great shape 5'11 180 pounds around 10% BF. I know that there will be no weightlifting at boot camp, and many people have been telling me that I will lose muscle at boot camp, While my recruiter says I'll be able to keep it if I eat eat eat...
I am confident that I can keep my muscle gains and build even build on them if there is time at boot camp to do self workouts, or is this out of the question? I can do basic prison workouts to maintain myself. If not i'm probably screwed.

thanks for your input!

Are you trying out for SEALs? I ask because of the way your name is posted.

Laworlo · 12-09-2012, 10:56 PM

You most likely will lose muscle mass. While in P-days, you are not cleared Fit for Full Duty, so you are not allowed to exercise. I was in P-days for 2 weeks because I was on P-Hold for a week. It killed my stamina on just about everything. And don't forget at night there are roving RDC's and if they catch up or hear you from a next door compartment, stand by to stand by. You will have some nice personal IT sessions, hours long. And your RDC's get in trouble for that as well. Then you will get beat again that morning.

Words of advice: EVERYTHING the roving RDC's do/see in your compartment at night gets emailed to your RDC's. I have accidently seen those emails.

McHolySOul · 12-11-2012, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FutureND

Are you trying out for SEALs? I ask because of the way your name is posted.

While I have considered SWCC, I would like to do VBSS depending on if the ship I get put on has the program. As for Seal... No. I just enjoy being in shape, but who knows maybe someday?

McHolySOul · 12-11-2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by culp7

Yeah bro, weight lifting is my life. I feel the exact same way you do about losing mass at boot. But as far as my plan, at boot I'm going to work on cardio like crazy. I'm looking at it as almost a cutting season. I have all my protein, and other supps set aside ready to be shipped to me as soon as I enter a-school. When you look at training as a whole, it wont really take that long to make up for the lost gains over 2 months.

Yeah right now i'm in a winter bulk, I can do cardio, but keep it to a minimum. As you are, I am also looking at boot camp as an early summer cut, but I just don't wanna lose too much of my gains, since I bulk clean, and gain slowly. I'm getting my supp's shipped ASAP after boot that's for sure! cause I hate GNC!!! hah

johnplisac32 · 04-12-2013, 05:00 PM

i know alot people hate gnc but i have personally saved soo much money with when they have buy on supplement get the other half off and they are best i have used

TYWong · 04-12-2013, 08:53 PM

@McHolySOul: I've contacted a few supplement companies that ship to military bases and if GNC is too pricey, you can order from TigerFitness! They've got some pretty decent products at a lower price. I have heard BB.com charges an a**load of money to ship to military.
But yeah, you will lose gains. RTC=cutting phase for a lot of future sailors that I know lift.

Temen · 04-12-2013, 10:18 PM

As stated, after Taps (lights out) a lot of recruits use that time to exercise. My division held push up, sit up, and sprint sessions for those recruits that weren't doing well on their PFAs. Also, I've seen plenty of recruits use the bars in the laundry room.
Granted, as previously said there are roving RDCs and you aren't supposed to be out of your rack. So, the risk is up to you. If you get caught, your whole division is likely to be ITed for a few hours. Not the best impression to leave on your fellow shipmates.
Also, Sunday mornings (I believe until 1300-1400) you have some "free time" in which you can write letters home, study, socialize, clean, etc. Just don't sleep. I'm not sure how impressed your RDCs will be if they see you exercising. I know they aren't allowed to IT you at all during your Sunday liberty, but I'm not sure about the rules for self PT. Again, to state that during P-Days you can't be PTed because you aren't "Fit for Full Duty", so I can understand the rule about no PTing without RDC supervision.
My best advice would be to make the PT sessions as difficult for yourself as possible. I know it won't be much, but just go as low as possible for push ups and hold it for a bit. Same as squats. When you do sit ups, always make your chest touch your legs (except for the PFAs).
I HIGHLY suggest you try being on the division staff. RPOC and AROC get beat for just about every mistake anyone in the division makes. As a Yeoman, I was beat every time someone failed to properly fill out the form that stated when recruits left the compartment (forgot what it is called), which happens all the time. Also, I was beat everytime someone entered the RDCs office incorrectly.

prop827 · 04-14-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Temen

As a Yeoman, I was beat every time someone failed to properly fill out the form that stated when recruits left the compartment (forgot what it is called), which happens all the time. Also, I was beat everytime someone entered the RDCs office incorrectly.

Ah yes, good old barracks check out sheets.... If I had a nickel for every time a correction had to be made on one of those when I was in boot.....

laurenjeannette · 04-15-2013, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by McHolySOul

So I ship out in late February, I am a weightlifter and in great shape 5'11 180 pounds around 10% BF. I know that there will be no weightlifting at boot camp, and many people have been telling me that I will lose muscle at boot camp, While my recruiter says I'll be able to keep it if I eat eat eat...
I am confident that I can keep my muscle gains and build even build on them if there is time at boot camp to do self workouts, or is this out of the question? I can do basic prison workouts to maintain myself. If not i'm probably screwed.

thanks for your input!

Time for the cutting cycle!!!

johnplisac32 · 04-16-2013, 03:58 PM

yea it will be a cutting phase for me i am not used to that i was lift heavy so this will be something new

dthomas21 · 04-16-2013, 09:58 PM

I feel like you can get cut from all of these type of workouts we will be doing though

12-09-2012, 04:02 AM	#1
McHolySOul Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 30 Rep Power: 10	Muscle LOSS at Boot...? So I ship out in late February, I am a weightlifter and in great shape 5'11 180 pounds around 10% BF. I know that there will be no weightlifting at boot camp, and many people have been telling me that I will lose muscle at boot camp, While my recruiter says I'll be able to keep it if I eat eat eat... I am confident that I can keep my muscle gains and build even build on them if there is time at boot camp to do self workouts, or is this out of the question? I can do basic prison workouts to maintain myself. If not i'm probably screwed. thanks for your input! Last edited by McHolySOul; 12-09-2012 at 05:19 AM.

12-09-2012, 11:35 AM	#3
sweetmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,787 Rep Power: 390	Just be aware that you most likely will loose alot of your muscle mass while at boot...my son did. Eating wont help you to keep it, but turn it to plain fat. Watch your diet and you may want to start now cutting back on the mass and start over once you get out of boot and on to your A school. __________________ Proud Military Mom, Navy Vet Justin(MM2n), and Army Vet SSgt Clayton "*Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude*." Thomas Jefferson

04-12-2013, 05:00 PM	#10
johnplisac32 Active Duty Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 260 Rep Power: 33	i know alot people hate gnc but i have personally saved soo much money with when they have buy on supplement get the other half off and they are best i have used __________________ 70% of the world covered by water 80% of all people live near water 90% of all trade travels by water 100% on watch 5 oceans 7 continents whatever it takes where ever it takes us americas navy

04-12-2013, 10:18 PM	#12
Temen Active Duty Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NAS Lemoore Posts: 145 Rep Power: 23	As stated, after Taps (lights out) a lot of recruits use that time to exercise. My division held push up, sit up, and sprint sessions for those recruits that weren't doing well on their PFAs. Also, I've seen plenty of recruits use the bars in the laundry room. Granted, as previously said there are roving RDCs and you aren't supposed to be out of your rack. So, the risk is up to you. If you get caught, your whole division is likely to be ITed for a few hours. Not the best impression to leave on your fellow shipmates. Also, Sunday mornings (I believe until 1300-1400) you have some "free time" in which you can write letters home, study, socialize, clean, etc. Just don't sleep. I'm not sure how impressed your RDCs will be if they see you exercising. I know they aren't allowed to IT you at all during your Sunday liberty, but I'm not sure about the rules for self PT. Again, to state that during P-Days you can't be PTed because you aren't "Fit for Full Duty", so I can understand the rule about no PTing without RDC supervision. My best advice would be to make the PT sessions as difficult for yourself as possible. I know it won't be much, but just go as low as possible for push ups and hold it for a bit. Same as squats. When you do sit ups, always make your chest touch your legs (except for the PFAs). I HIGHLY suggest you try being on the division staff. RPOC and AROC get beat for just about every mistake anyone in the division makes. As a Yeoman, I was beat every time someone failed to properly fill out the form that stated when recruits left the compartment (forgot what it is called), which happens all the time. Also, I was beat everytime someone entered the RDCs office incorrectly. __________________ AE2 (AW) Temen, USN Active Duty. F/A-18 A-F O-Level Maintainer Auxiliary Security Force

04-16-2013, 03:58 PM	#15
johnplisac32 Active Duty Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 260 Rep Power: 33	yea it will be a cutting phase for me i am not used to that i was lift heavy so this will be something new __________________ 70% of the world covered by water 80% of all people live near water 90% of all trade travels by water 100% on watch 5 oceans 7 continents whatever it takes where ever it takes us americas navy

12-09-2012, 02:48 PM	#4
Bingle Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 70 Rep Power: 14	You can work out after taps, you just have to be careful. By RTC rules you are not allowed to work out unless it's with your RDC's. They don't want you hurting yourself.....I worked out almost every night. There are poles in the laundry room that held out biggest guy (over 200lbs) without a problem.

12-09-2012, 06:16 PM	#5
culp7 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 114 Rep Power: 18	Yeah bro, weight lifting is my life. I feel the exact same way you do about losing mass at boot. But as far as my plan, at boot I'm going to work on cardio like crazy. I'm looking at it as almost a cutting season. I have all my protein, and other supps set aside ready to be shipped to me as soon as I enter a-school. When you look at training as a whole, it wont really take that long to make up for the lost gains over 2 months.

12-09-2012, 10:56 PM	#7
Laworlo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 322 Rep Power: 39	You most likely will lose muscle mass. While in P-days, you are not cleared Fit for Full Duty, so you are not allowed to exercise. I was in P-days for 2 weeks because I was on P-Hold for a week. It killed my stamina on just about everything. And don't forget at night there are roving RDC's and if they catch up or hear you from a next door compartment, stand by to stand by. You will have some nice personal IT sessions, hours long. And your RDC's get in trouble for that as well. Then you will get beat again that morning. Words of advice: EVERYTHING the roving RDC's do/see in your compartment at night gets emailed to your RDC's. I have accidently seen those emails.

04-12-2013, 08:53 PM	#11
TYWong Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Great Lakes, IL Posts: 50 Rep Power: 12	@McHolySOul: I've contacted a few supplement companies that ship to military bases and if GNC is too pricey, you can order from TigerFitness! They've got some pretty decent products at a lower price. I have heard BB.com charges an a**load of money to ship to military. But yeah, you will lose gains. RTC=cutting phase for a lot of future sailors that I know lift.

04-16-2013, 09:58 PM	#16
dthomas21 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 7	I feel like you can get cut from all of these type of workouts we will be doing though