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05-04-2012, 07:19 AM | #1 |
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Here is the rule:
010204. TERM OF ENLISTMENT. Applicants will enlist for four years and concurrently execute an agreement to extend their enlistment for 24 months. Specific narrative reason for extension is: “Training in the Advanced Electronic Field (AEF)/Advanced Technical Field (ATF) Program and advancement to paygrade E4 per MILPERSMAN Articles 1160-040 and 1510-030. I understand that this extension becomes binding upon execution and thereafter may not be cancelled except as set forth in MILPERSMAN Article 1160-040. In particular, I understand that when I accept advancement to E4, 12 months of this agreement may not be cancelled whether or not I complete advanced training. This is my first enlistment. Total aggregate of extension: 24 months.” 010205. GENERAL APPRENTICESHIP AND PAYGRADE a. Entry Paygrade. All applicants are enlisted in paygrade E1 and are authorized advancement to E2 upon completion of recruit training. Advancement to E3 is authorized only after personnel complete all advancement in rate requirements and time in grade requirements. This does not preclude enlistment in paygrade E2 or E3 under Volume IV, Chapter 3, Section 7. b. Advancement. Advancement to E4 is authorized only after completion of all advancement in rate requirements, time in grade requirements, and Class “A” School. In addition, advancement to E3 and E4 is contingent upon maintaining AEF/ATF Program eligibility. If an individual is reduced in rate because of disciplinary infractions prior or subsequent to advancement to E4 eligibility for E4 is terminated. Advancement to E4 requires a five-year active duty obligation as set forth in MILPERSMAN 1430-010. If an individual is reduced in rate subsequent to advancement to paygrade E4 there is no reduction in active obligated service. c. Conditions. Disenrollment from the program due to non-volunteering is not authorized. Cancellation of enlistment extension due to disenrollment from or nonenrollment in advanced training is per MILPERSMAN Article 1160-040. Applicants must be specifically counseled that: (1) If automatic advancement to E4 has been accepted one year of the extension is binding whether or not advanced training is completed. (2) Current paygrade is retained and the extension agreement is cancelled if the individual quits or is found undesirable for program continuation, automatic advancement has not been accepted, and advanced training has not begun. (3) If the individual quits and advancement to E4 has not been accepted, but advanced training has begun, the member is required to repay three months additional obligated service (beyond the four-year point) for each month of advanced training received up to a maximum of two additional years obligated service. (4) If a member completes all advanced training and advancement to E4 was not accepted the two-year extension remains effective due to completion of the advanced training. (5) The member has a choice whether to accept E4. If E4 is accepted the individual is bound for five of the six years however, regardless of E4 acceptance, the Chief of Naval Personnel decides whether to order the individual to advanced training. This decision is based on the probability of successfully completing the advanced training and does take the member’s motivation and Class “A” School performance into account. Members who are qualified for advanced training are ordered based on their qualifications and not on their decision regarding advancement to E4.
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05-04-2012, 10:51 AM | #2 |
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To my knowledge (looks like craig has the official version) you will get E2 upon reporting to A School (from the guys I knew who are AECF). For automatic advancement beyond that, it isn't totally automatic. You need to pass all of your schooling sufficiently, have a good eval at the end of training (ie, no LOI's or Disciplinary/academic boards), not have gone to NJP or courts martial at all, and you must pass your PFA both to graduate boot camp and the next official one you take. The next official PFA is the most common reason for being denied automatic advancement.
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05-04-2012, 01:25 PM | #3 |
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Im confused, everyone keeps saying A school, don't we report to tech school first? or is that the same thing?
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05-04-2012, 02:22 PM | #4 |
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Each rate is different, the vast majority start with A school then any technical (or C Schools) come later. Your rate may be different, I don't know much about AECF, but I do know about the auto advancement rules.
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05-04-2012, 05:51 PM | #5 |
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idk my fact sheet says ATT school, A school, then C school
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05-04-2012, 06:52 PM | #6 |
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What you guys need to realize is that when you graduate boot camp, most likely you will not be wearing the e-2 stripe. You will get it within the 1st two weeks when you get to your "A" school. And yes, they will back pay you from the time you graduate boot camp. So don't worry about it, it's just a paperwork drill, you will get it....
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05-04-2012, 09:55 PM | #7 |
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I'm going into boot camp as a E-1 i've finished my start guide packet and will hopefully make E-2 when i pass the test during p-days and then the prt test now whats the best ways to make E-3 while in boot camp after getting the E-2
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05-04-2012, 03:14 PM | #8 | |
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