RC to AC program in A school

[Chevrons21]

Originally Posted by wishbone

I'm guessing you probably already checked this out:
https://www.navy.com/joining/ways-to...rance-programs

Since you're prior, you probably know this, but I wouldn't expect any guaranteed rate until it was signed at MEPS. When I got there I had to argue and get my recruiter involved after they tried to make me sign as something else.

The reserve only option might be true without going through an exception process. (there's always an exception process). IT A school isn't bad gig. I like Corry Station and you end up with civilian certifications from the school. The biggest issue I see with joining the Navy Reserve as an IT is the lack of C school. Generally the Navy does't want to pay for additional schooling for reservists. If they won't give you one you may be more limited to your opportunities, but you'd need to speak to an IT more about that.

Anyway, I know your original question was about RC to AC. We've had some do that with success in our units (CT,IS,IT), but it tends to be pretty rare. I wouldn't believe anything that wasn't in writing before joining.

I'm already expecting this but yeah, I'm sticking with whatever they have on paper as I sign up. Whatever happened after you argued with them? Did you get the rate you wanted?

"The reserve only option might be true without going through an exception process."

I see. Thanks. I'm very hesitant to try another recruiter as I've already gone through quite a few of them. Frankly I am getting tired of talking to recruiters at this point.

I haven't even thought about the C school and somehow not such a big deal for me on the get go. I saw some other forums where it says if you're going for a 6 year contract that most likely they will get a C school. I figured if I do luck out on that RC to AC program, Big Navy might just give that C school to me since I did opt in for a 6 year contract seeing how hard it is to get in.

Those guys that were able to successfully move over to AD through RC to AC. Any chance you are familiar with their story? As in a vague timeline how long it took them to complete it? 6MOS? 1 YR? 3YRS?

[Barbazu]

If I’m remembering correctly from my time at Corry it seems that 6y sailors - reserve and active - got a C school. I’m certain that was the case for CT rates with the exception of CTNs. When you get to Corry they’ll assign you a reserve liaison. They’re job is to help you sort through the reserve side of things. One of my biggest regrets is not taking advantage of their help. That’s why ended up a PS instead of an IT or IS or CTR. After being rerated to PS they told me I️ could’ve come to them and negotiated a contract I️ stead of taking the first thing they gave me.

[Chevrons21]

Originally Posted by Barbazu

If I’m remembering correctly from my time at Corry it seems that 6y sailors - reserve and active - got a C school. I’m certain that was the case for CT rates with the exception of CTNs. When you get to Corry they’ll assign you a reserve liaison. They’re job is to help you sort through the reserve side of things. One of my biggest regrets is not taking advantage of their help. That’s why ended up a PS instead of an IT or IS or CTR. After being rerated to PS they told me I️ could’ve come to them and negotiated a contract I️ stead of taking the first thing they gave me.

That would be nice if that would end up being that case.

One of the conversations I had while at the recruiter was. When they told me I'd have to go RC to AC, I launched a question of: "What happens if I get to A-school, and they tell me that I am staying Reserve and I could not go AD." They told me to give them a call. I just couldn't see how a recruiter could help me out at that point. I'll definitely keep that In mind if and when I get there.

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by Chevrons21

I'm already expecting this but yeah, I'm sticking with whatever they have on paper as I sign up. Whatever happened after you argued with them? Did you get the rate you wanted?

"The reserve only option might be true without going through an exception process."

I see. Thanks. I'm very hesitant to try another recruiter as I've already gone through quite a few of them. Frankly I am getting tired of talking to recruiters at this point.

I haven't even thought about the C school and somehow not such a big deal for me on the get go. I saw some other forums where it says if you're going for a 6 year contract that most likely they will get a C school. I figured if I do luck out on that RC to AC program, Big Navy might just give that C school to me since I did opt in for a 6 year contract seeing how hard it is to get in.

Those guys that were able to successfully move over to AD through RC to AC. Any chance you are familiar with their story? As in a vague timeline how long it took them to complete it? 6MOS? 1 YR? 3YRS?

This is what I did but I don't necessarily recommend it unless you have a lot of trust in your recruiter. When I finally got through MEPs I was told the "security office" was closed and I couldn't sign for anything that required a clearance. At first they tried to make me sign as HM, but I told them that there was no way I could do that job, so I agreed to temporarily sign as a YN with the understanding that my recruiter would "Fix it" and get me into a CT/IS rate. I stayed on top of him every week for about 4 weeks before he got me into what I wanted and also moved up my ship date pretty significantly. Keep in mind that you have the right to drop out of "DEP" at any time without repercussions and I reminded them that I would not ship under a YN contract. That worked for me, but I recommend pushing as hard as you can at MEPs to make sure you sign for what your recruiter promised you. You may have zero issues, but you know how the military process goes sometimes.

The time it takes to complete A/C school for ITs depends on the school you get into. A school is 24 weeks. I honestly don't know what the current C school options for IT are. i did know ITs that had been at Corry a year if that helps. A lot of that has to do with availability of schools when you get there, depending on your timing sometimes you can end up in holding areas for awhile. Your contract will list your schools, if there is no C school listed it is highly unlikely you will be placed in one while out there. It's not the end of the world, just something to consider.
https://www.cool.navy.mil/usn/enlist...o_cards/it.pdf


RE: reserve coordinator at Corry Station
I never met such a person. The entire base (2013) seemed pretty clueless about what to even do with reservists. It was pretty frustrating. You really need to do your research before you get out there. I would contact your local NOSC and see if you can get the career counselor on the phone. I highly recommend getting on the phone and calling people until you can figure out what the likelihood of RC to AC is for you beyond what a recruiter says. There are some additional suggestions here as well as up to date information on current RC to AC opportunities (I thinks someone else linked to that already)
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-n...rtunities.aspx

[Chevrons21]

Originally Posted by wishbone

This is what I did but I don't necessarily recommend it unless you have a lot of trust in your recruiter. When I finally got through MEPs I was told the "security office" was closed and I couldn't sign for anything that required a clearance. At first they tried to make me sign as HM, but I told them that there was no way I could do that job, so I agreed to temporarily sign as a YN with the understanding that my recruiter would "Fix it" and get me into a CT/IS rate. I stayed on top of him every week for about 4 weeks before he got me into what I wanted and also moved up my ship date pretty significantly. Keep in mind that you have the right to drop out of "DEP" at any time without repercussions and I reminded them that I would not ship under a YN contract. That worked for me, but I recommend pushing as hard as you can at MEPs to make sure you sign for what your recruiter promised you. You may have zero issues, but you know how the military process goes sometimes.

The time it takes to complete A/C school for ITs depends on the school you get into. A school is 24 weeks. I honestly don't know what the current C school options for IT are. i did know ITs that had been at Corry a year if that helps. A lot of that has to do with availability of schools when you get there, depending on your timing sometimes you can end up in holding areas for awhile. Your contract will list your schools, if there is no C school listed it is highly unlikely you will be placed in one while out there. It's not the end of the world, just something to consider.
https://www.cool.navy.mil/usn/enlist...o_cards/it.pdf


RE: reserve coordinator at Corry Station
I never met such a person. The entire base (2013) seemed pretty clueless about what to even do with reservists. It was pretty frustrating. You really need to do your research before you get out there. I would contact your local NOSC and see if you can get the career counselor on the phone. I highly recommend getting on the phone and calling people until you can figure out what the likelihood of RC to AC is for you beyond what a recruiter says. There are some additional suggestions here as well as up to date information on current RC to AC opportunities (I thinks someone else linked to that already)
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-n...rtunities.aspx

Thank you for the links. The more I read into RC to AC the more I start to worry. I think I need to do more reading about other routes. Also keep reading about reservists stuck wanting to go Active with a few success stories here and there. A lot of them had to cross rate. I would like to go for IT if I could. Going to look into other options as I wait on my recruiter.

I really appreciate all the advice and insight on this. Just having to talk to somebody more knowledgeable about this already gives a small and temporary sense of relief that there might be better options out there.

If it does happen that I do go to MEPS and get to see some sort of contract paper work in the near future, I'll try to update this thread if it doesn't get closed. Maybe it'll help other people in my same situation.

[wishbone]

No problem, I'm happy to help. When it comes to the reserves there isn't a lot of good information out there on what you are getting into. We get people showing up all the time with expectations from recruiter conversations. When it comes to the Navy EVERYTHING is written down. If you can't find it explicitly written out, then it simply does not exist. These programs are all well detailed out, so if you can't see your chosen path in writing definitely do not count on it.