AIRR ?'s

FutureAW · 03-17-2013, 07:52 PM

I can swim 500m in 10 min on freestyle, but i know that is sub standard for airr. As my out of water pt, that doesnt worry me. Crossfit has taken care of that. As for "lifting", i do high rep endurance lifting. Nothing lower than 20 reps followed by loads of flutter kicks. I will be doing my own pst tomorrow and I will post the results. As for my desire for airr, it's something challenging. Not too sound conceited, but it's a big deal to save lives and I would like to be that person. They allow for volunteers through boot camp, and I leave in April so I feel I may just go for broke.

FutureAW · 03-17-2013, 07:54 PM

Thank you both for the replies too, I appreciate you taking the time to do that. Any insight on the work outs they do in pool?

Haasino · 03-17-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FutureAW

As for my desire for airr, it's something challenging. Not too sound conceited, but it's a big deal to save lives and I would like to be that person. They allow for volunteers through boot camp, and I leave in April so I feel I may just go for broke.

You need to be aware that most Aviation Rescue Swimmers don't actually make rescues. If you get AWR, you'll be conducting anti-submarine warfare work in the back of an MH-60R... and if you're an AWS, you'll primarily be conducting VERTREP (Resupply) or manning a door gun depending on the mission. Sure, you'll train for rescues, and if you're hot enough to get assigned to a SAR squadron, you'll probably make some actual rescues while assisting the Coast Guard or local governments... but you're job is an H-60 crewman first, and a rescue swimmer second... and even the purpose of that is essentially to rescue downed pilots, and fortunately they don't go down very often.

Bottom line - if you wanna be like Ashton Kutcher in "The Guardian", join the Coast Guard and become an Aviation Survival Technician... if you wanna be a helo crewman, do some cool shit, and maybe... maybe... make an actual rescue, then AIRR is an awesome program.

And who has been telling you that you can volunteer for AIRR at RTC? They do not have the staffing or time to run people through PSTs and give them slots in 800 divisions... and RSS is currently so backlogged, they're haven't put a single AIRR candidate in a NACCS class for almost a month now.

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Originally Posted by FutureAW

Thank you both for the replies too, I appreciate you taking the time to do that. Any insight on the work outs they do in pool?

Lots of sprints... crawl as fast as you can... treading, drown-proofing, buddy tows, etc. This is in addition to all the other water survival training you've done at NACCS. Here's a somewhat recent video that'll give you an idea:

USN Rescue Swimmer School (2011)

FutureAW · 03-17-2013, 08:27 PM

I am aware of all this. But too have the chance to affect some bodies life is worth it. It's a good thing rescues don't happen more often, like you said. Airr is a great program from what I've read, and Im very eager to be helo. How often is dry helo handed out? When would I receive my platform if I stayed dry?

Haasino · 03-17-2013, 08:36 PM

AWS slots for AIRC come and go... currently they are giving out 2-4 slots per class, but that's all subject to change once it fills up... there are only 2 squadrons for the MH-53E. It also varies by class... 2 classes before me, they had 4 slots and 6 people wanted it... class before me had 2 slots and 1 wanted it so the 2nd was forced on someone else... my class had 3 slots and 4 people wanted it. Next class? Who knows...

FutureAW · 03-17-2013, 08:47 PM

That's understandable. Do the duties aboard a h53 include any gunning or vert rep? I'm just,he'll bent on helo, but I am at the navy's needs if it isn't open. Are you referring to naccs class? Is that when orders are handed out?

Haasino · 03-17-2013, 09:15 PM

They do have crew served weapons on the 53s, and you'll train on them, but they rarely deploy them on missions. The primary mission of the 53 is mine-countermeasure work... you'll drag a sled behind the helo that locates sea mines. You'll also do humanitarian work if there's a disaster somewhere... the Sea Dragons were deployed to Pakistan, Japan, and Haiti after the quakes.
Yes, you'll find out if you're going AWF, AWV, AWO, or AWS the last week of NACCS... from there, you'll go to your applicable A School, and at the end of A School, you find out what specific type of aircraft you'll be flying on... unless you get AWS, then you already know you're going on a 53.

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03-17-2013, 07:52 PM	#1
FutureAW Newbie Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	I can swim 500m in 10 min on freestyle, but i know that is sub standard for airr. As my out of water pt, that doesnt worry me. Crossfit has taken care of that. As for "lifting", i do high rep endurance lifting. Nothing lower than 20 reps followed by loads of flutter kicks. I will be doing my own pst tomorrow and I will post the results. As for my desire for airr, it's something challenging. Not too sound conceited, but it's a big deal to save lives and I would like to be that person. They allow for volunteers through boot camp, and I leave in April so I feel I may just go for broke.

03-17-2013, 07:54 PM	#2
FutureAW Newbie Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Thank you both for the replies too, I appreciate you taking the time to do that. Any insight on the work outs they do in pool?

03-17-2013, 08:27 PM	#4
FutureAW Newbie Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	I am aware of all this. But too have the chance to affect some bodies life is worth it. It's a good thing rescues don't happen more often, like you said. Airr is a great program from what I've read, and Im very eager to be helo. How often is dry helo handed out? When would I receive my platform if I stayed dry?

03-17-2013, 08:36 PM	#5
Haasino Active Duty Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,439 Rep Power: 0	AWS slots for AIRC come and go... currently they are giving out 2-4 slots per class, but that's all subject to change once it fills up... there are only 2 squadrons for the MH-53E. It also varies by class... 2 classes before me, they had 4 slots and 6 people wanted it... class before me had 2 slots and 1 wanted it so the 2nd was forced on someone else... my class had 3 slots and 4 people wanted it. Next class? Who knows...

03-17-2013, 08:47 PM	#6
FutureAW Newbie Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	That's understandable. Do the duties aboard a h53 include any gunning or vert rep? I'm just,he'll bent on helo, but I am at the navy's needs if it isn't open. Are you referring to naccs class? Is that when orders are handed out?

03-17-2013, 09:15 PM	#7
Haasino Active Duty Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,439 Rep Power: 0	They do have crew served weapons on the 53s, and you'll train on them, but they rarely deploy them on missions. The primary mission of the 53 is mine-countermeasure work... you'll drag a sled behind the helo that locates sea mines. You'll also do humanitarian work if there's a disaster somewhere... the Sea Dragons were deployed to Pakistan, Japan, and Haiti after the quakes. Yes, you'll find out if you're going AWF, AWV, AWO, or AWS the last week of NACCS... from there, you'll go to your applicable A School, and at the end of A School, you find out what specific type of aircraft you'll be flying on... unless you get AWS, then you already know you're going on a 53.