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Tay 03-11-2015 10:05 PM

2015 IT's
 
Any other fellow IT's out there. If any tell why or what you plan to get from being in this rate or any other info.

Wright 03-15-2015 10:48 AM

Im shipping off 20150406 as an IT!

ShotOfWSC 03-15-2015 09:55 PM

Congrats guys on choosing one of the best rates in the Navy. I'm IT3 Harmon, and if you have any questions about the rate and/or what we do, just let me know.

Tay 03-16-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ShotOfWSC (Post 52743)
Congrats guys on choosing one of the best rates in the Navy. I'm IT3 Harmon, and if you have any questions about the rate and/or what we do, just let me know.

I was wondering what are the hours of an IT. Can it be boring sometimes? Is it more ship or shore duty?

Tay 03-16-2015 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wright (Post 52710)
Im shipping off 20150406 as an IT!

That's good. I ship out 20150707

FlyNavy 03-16-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tay (Post 52749)
I was wondering what are the hours of an IT. Can it be boring sometimes? Is it more ship or shore duty?

You're hours will be similar to everyone else; working hours are typically 0700-1600. That changes sometimes based on your watch schedule, or on shore duty you could be on the night shift, but that's the standard "working day" for everyone in 90% of commands.

For IT's it's a bit of a coin toss on ship vs shore duty first. Every ship has a division of IT's, so there's PLENTY of possibility you get a ship first. But also some of the larger NCTAMS (pronounced Nick-Tams) facilities also get plenty of IT's straight out of A-school. The deciding factor will really be the "Needs of the Navy" at the time you're getting orders. If they need bodies on the ships, you go to a ship. If they need guys shore side, you go to shore. There really isn't anything you can do to predict it, it's just going to be what the needs are at the time you're getting assigned orders.

/r
CTT1

Tay 03-18-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CTT1(SW)Griffin (Post 52751)
You're hours will be similar to everyone else; working hours are typically 0700-1600. That changes sometimes based on your watch schedule, or on shore duty you could be on the night shift, but that's the standard "working day" for everyone in 90% of commands.

For IT's it's a bit of a coin toss on ship vs shore duty first. Every ship has a division of IT's, so there's PLENTY of possibility you get a ship first. But also some of the larger NCTAMS (pronounced Nick-Tams) facilities also get plenty of IT's straight out of A-school. The deciding factor will really be the "Needs of the Navy" at the time you're getting orders. If they need bodies on the ships, you go to a ship. If they need guys shore side, you go to shore. There really isn't anything you can do to predict it, it's just going to be what the needs are at the time you're getting assigned orders.

/r
CTT1

Can being a IT be boring at times?

enerG 03-28-2015 02:46 PM

Harmon, are there certs that you gain in A school? Also would any prior schooling in the IT field be useful in A school?

ShotOfWSC 03-28-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by enerG (Post 53023)
Harmon, are there certs that you gain in A school? Also would any prior schooling in the IT field be useful in A school?

Yes. In A school, you'll receive your A+ cert. If you get SysAd as your C school, you will get your Security+ cert. Although when you get to your first command, they'll most likely require you to get Secuity+ anyway if you don't have it. It's now required to be able to touch the networks as an admin. Take the certs seriously, because if you don't pass the certs in school after 2 attempts, you get re rated. Yes, prior IT schooling would be helpful in school as far a networking goes, but not on the comms side of things. It helps as far as knowledge goes (depending on your level of knowledge), but not for any other reason.

enerG 03-28-2015 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ShotOfWSC (Post 53024)
Yes. In A school, you'll receive your A+ cert. If you get SysAd as your C school, you will get your Security+ cert. Although when you get to your first command, they'll most likely require you to get Secuity+ anyway if you don't have it. It's now required to be able to touch the networks as an admin. Take the certs seriously, because if you don't pass the certs in school after 2 attempts, you get re rated. Yes, prior IT schooling would be helpful in school as far a networking goes, but not on the comms side of things. It helps as far as knowledge goes (depending on your level of knowledge), but not for any other reason.

I'll be a 4 year IT-SG, I have my BS in information and computer technology with a concentration in information security. As far as C-school goes I don't think 4 years get that opportunity? Also do 4 year IT's get the advancement opportunity that 6 year IT's get?

ShotOfWSC 03-28-2015 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by enerG (Post 53026)
I'll be a 4 year IT-SG, I have my BS in information and computer technology with a concentration in information security. As far as C-school goes I don't think 4 years get that opportunity? Also do 4 year IT's get the advancement opportunity that 6 year IT's get?

No, 4yr ITs don't get the push button e4, but that's okay because advancement to 3rd has been at 100% for a while, so with you already having a degree which means you're going in e3...you'll be e4 in no time at all. Even with the auto advancement, what people don't know is that you still need TIR (time in rate) to pick up, so even with the push button, 6yrs still have to do time as e2 and e3 (6yrs get to put on e2 after boot). With your degree concentration in IS, you will more than likely have a good grasp on the networking side of things because we are ALL about the security of our networks and systems. I'm primarily a comms guy and withing 2 weeks of checking on board to my command, they sent me to class to get Security+ certified. I got my degree before joining as well (in computer information systems), so I already knew a lot, but you will still learn more...especially as you actually start to do work outside of school. Also, if you think you can pass the cert without the class or have done self study, you can request a voucher to take certs.

enerG 03-30-2015 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ShotOfWSC (Post 53028)
No, 4yr ITs don't get the push button e4, but that's okay because advancement to 3rd has been at 100% for a while, so with you already having a degree which means you're going in e3...you'll be e4 in no time at all. Even with the auto advancement, what people don't know is that you still need TIR (time in rate) to pick up, so even with the push button, 6yrs still have to do time as e2 and e3 (6yrs get to put on e2 after boot). With your degree concentration in IS, you will more than likely have a good grasp on the networking side of things because we are ALL about the security of our networks and systems. I'm primarily a comms guy and withing 2 weeks of checking on board to my command, they sent me to class to get Security+ certified. I got my degree before joining as well (in computer information systems), so I already knew a lot, but you will still learn more...especially as you actually start to do work outside of school. Also, if you think you can pass the cert without the class or have done self study, you can request a voucher to take certs.


I know my IT experience gained will translate, but if I do get a com position within IT would the skills and work experience acquired translate to civ life and trying to get a job on the outside?

Tay 03-30-2015 11:02 AM

How is advancement looking in this rate?

ShotOfWSC 03-31-2015 12:27 AM

enerG,

Comms is different than network in that it isn't as applicable in the civilian world as network...there are jobs out there for that skill set though (major cell towers, radio companies, satellite controlling companies or anything that deals with knowledge of telecommunications or the RF and EM field). Also, like I stated, you will learn both sides. Comms and network are different, but when you become and IT, you will see how they correlate with each other to form the entire rating. Network, however, is a more valuable skill set if you look at civilian opportunities. In the civilian sector, your clearance will probably be more valuable than anything though. I just think comms is more fun, being that I've done more stuff than people can imagine. If you plan on getting out though, then yes...network gives you the more valuable and marketable skill set. I'm sure you can imagine what kind of experience running 3+ networks will give you.

Tay,

IT advancement is good right now actually. Better than A LOT of other ratings, that's for sure. I just took my test for 2nd, and pretty sure I'm gonna make it first time up. You'll pick up and advance in pay grade pretty quickly. So, IT is def not a bad choice if you're looking at advancement opportunities.

Tommyj 04-01-2015 05:27 PM

Hello Guys,

I'm Thomas, currently in DEP. I am leaving 20150826 for RTC then off to Pensacola for IT A school

Teck3 04-01-2015 06:00 PM

I DEP'd in today for IT/ATF, ship date of 20151006.

ShotOfWSC 04-01-2015 11:48 PM

Congrats guys! You really made a great choice. If you guys have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!

V/R
IT3

Tay 04-02-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommyj (Post 53061)
Hello Guys,

I'm Thomas, currently in DEP. I am leaving 20150826 for RTC then off to Pensacola for IT A school

I'm IT too. I ship 20150707. We might be in A School together

FS LANE 05-20-2015 09:52 PM

IT and Excited
 
Just got depped in on 20150513 as an IT ATF. I see a lot of talk about IT being primarily subs. Is this true or is it just a common misconception. Also I have no clue what the ATF on my rate means, other than the fact i signed up for 6 years as opposed to 4. Also my ship date is 4 days before christmas, my recruiter told me that i would likely be pushed to after new years but the officer at MEPS told me i would more likely be pushed to the 17th of dec. Any sort of information helps.

ShipDate 20151221

ShotOfWSC 05-21-2015 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FS LANE (Post 53781)
Just got depped in on 20150513 as an IT ATF. I see a lot of talk about IT being primarily subs. Is this true or is it just a common misconception. Also I have no clue what the ATF on my rate means, other than the fact i signed up for 6 years as opposed to 4. Also my ship date is 4 days before christmas, my recruiter told me that i would likely be pushed to after new years but the officer at MEPS told me i would more likely be pushed to the 17th of dec. Any sort of information helps.

ShipDate 20151221

IT is not primarily subs...that's ITS. So yes, that is a misconception. ITS are the ITs dedicated to subs. The difference between IT and ITS is the same as the difference between STG and STS. The ATF (Advanced Technical Field), just means that you signed for 24 month extension, and as a bonus the Navy gives you extra training (C school) and automatic E4 upon completion of A school (assuming you have TIR). As far as the whole ship date thing, it just depends on how they are running things...it really could go either way though. It's just however they want to run things and what's convenient to the scheduling for them.

IT2 (Select)

Teck3 05-21-2015 04:53 AM

You can volunteer for subs and attend BESS (sub school), becoming ITS (instead of IT), though you'll likely be stuck on submarines for the entirety of your career (e.g. cannot switch to surface ships). Other than that, IT shouldn't go sub.

DHutch 05-29-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ShotOfWSC (Post 53064)
Congrats guys! You really made a great choice. If you guys have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!

V/R
IT3

I chose this rate because i qualified and i thought it would be interesting, I have no experience in this field whatsoever. I was wondering how difficult A school is going to be given i have no experience?

ShotOfWSC 06-11-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DHutch (Post 53860)
I chose this rate because i qualified and i thought it would be interesting, I have no experience in this field whatsoever. I was wondering how difficult A school is going to be given i have no experience?

Being an IT is VERY interesting (great choice)!!! I always tell people that IT "A" school can be easy or hard depending on your motivation and interest levels. People who tend to be interested in certain topics usually do better in them. Some things can be confusing until you start to get the hang of it though. However, you don't really go too deep in depth with anything in "A" school anyway...you dig deeper in "C" school. That being said, difficulty depends on you. As long as you focus on class and get your study time in you'll be okay. If there is something you don't understand, stay for tutoring because there is a lot of information that will be thrown at you. You're not the first person to go into the rate with no experience and you definitely won't be the last. Good luck, you'll do fine!\

/R
IT2

king 06-11-2015 12:30 PM

IT. I'm going to RTC 20160107. I really want to leave earlier.

nicknaaks 06-11-2015 05:23 PM

Hey guys this is my first time using this forum so please let me know if I'm doing anything wrong lol.

Future sailor Tiong set to go to RTC on 20151110. Didn't get picked up for nuke so they put me into IT instead. haven't done any research on this rating because I really thought I was going to get picked up for nuke. I was wondering how long is A school? Also, after A school will I get assigned to my first command right away?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

(Sorry if I'm thread jacking)

king 06-12-2015 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nicknaaks (Post 54159)
Hey guys this is my first time using this forum so please let me know if I'm doing anything wrong lol.

Future sailor Tiong set to go to RTC on 20151110. Didn't get picked up for nuke so they put me into IT instead. haven't done any research on this rating because I really thought I was going to get picked up for nuke. I was wondering how long is A school? Also, after A school will I get assigned to my first command right away?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

(Sorry if I'm thread jacking)

From what I understand, IT requires an A School and C School, which are both located in Pensacola. Did you sign a 6 year contract? If you don't have C School then yes, your first command will be assigned at the end of A School. Depending on how well your schooling goes, you get to fill out a dream sheet of places you prefer to go.

FlyNavy 06-12-2015 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by king (Post 54168)
From what I understand, IT requires an A School and C School, which are both located in Pensacola. Did you sign a 6 year contract? If you don't have C School then yes, your first command will be assigned at the end of A School. Depending on how well your schooling goes, you get to fill out a dream sheet of places you prefer to go.

Not all IT's will go to C-schools. C-schools are for those specializing in a specific skill or equipment. So if you're destined for a command that needs that specific skill set, then the Navy will pay for you to get that school. If your billet doesn't require it though, they aren't going to spend thousands on a school you wont need.

The dream sheet is also exactly that; a dream. It's where you would like to go, not a list of places you will go. Just get your head around that you'll be going to where the Navy needs you guys rather than getting to pick. If they give you options though, awesome! ^_^

IT A-school is heavily computer based training and somewhat self-paced (you're working through modules). So it really depends on how fast you get through everything. Although at a minimum it will still take a couple months with everything going on.

/r
CTT1

ShotOfWSC 06-13-2015 08:22 AM

Like CTT1 said, not all ITs get "C" school. It depends on if you signed a 4 year or a 6 year contract. If you signed for 6 years, then you will have a "C" school. Also, sometimes depending on how well you do in "A" school and the need for certain NECs, you can get picked up for a "C" school. IT "A" school is approximately 6 months in length and is split up into 4 different courses. It's instructor led, but most of your work is computer based. You can expect to be at Corry Station for 6 months to a year or over depending on if you just have "A" school or both and how long it takes you to class up, etc..

/R
IT2

LT Guppy 06-13-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ShotOfWSC (Post 54189)
Like CTT1 said, not all ITs get "C" school. It depends on if you signed a 4 year or a 6 year contract. If you signed for 6 years, then you will have a "C" school. Also, sometimes depending on how well you do in "A" school and the need for certain NECs, you can get picked up for a "C" school. IT "A" school is approximately 6 months in length and is split up into 4 different courses. It's instructor led, but most of your work is computer based. You can expect to be at Corry Station for 6 months to a year or over depending on if you just have "A" school or both and how long it takes you to class up, etc..

/R
IT2

(IT2 I got your message, I just got back from leave and am trying to catch up on life...)

ShotOfWSC 06-13-2015 01:25 PM

No worries Ma'am...I know that feeling, lol. Hopefully you enjoyed your leave (pretty sure you did).

king 06-14-2015 09:03 AM

Is there a way to leave for boot camp earlier than the date you signed for (and still keep your rate)?

Teck3 07-10-2015 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by king (Post 54204)
Is there a way to leave for boot camp earlier than the date you signed for (and still keep your rate)?

I'm not sure how common it is, but my recruiter asked a few weeks back if I wanted to ship out early (less than 30 days from him asking) - I still had 4 months left prior to my set ship date. I turned him down, but it looks like I would've shipped early with the same rating.

king 07-10-2015 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Teck3 (Post 54804)
I'm not sure how common it is, but my recruiter asked a few weeks back if I wanted to ship out early (less than 30 days from him asking) - I still had 4 months left prior to my set ship date. I turned him down, but it looks like I would've shipped early with the same rating.

I'm definitely contacting my recruiter Monday! That sounds lovely if possible.

Tay 07-12-2015 01:06 AM

Do anyone know if IT's get CEH?

Teck3 07-12-2015 09:10 PM

I could be mistaken seeing as I'm only a DEP member, but I do not believe IT does ethical hacking.

https://www.cool.navy.mil/usn/search/CERT_CEH4310.htm

Cryptologic Technician Networks (CTN) is the rating that can obtain that certification.

Dominique 10-10-2015 10:44 AM

I leave on the 20151013 and I have the same rate as you we might see each other in boot camp

Matt 10-26-2015 11:11 AM

I got reclassified as IT(thankfully!), lots of good info here as to IT A school. Can someone tell me what A school is like, I've heard that there are tons of rules and they take all of your civilian clothes and electronics (besides phone) when you check in, is that true? Ive been in the Navy for 7 months so hopefully I can get out of that. Where I am now we have 0 rules and I can leave base whenever I want, and it's pretty awesome....

Kysty32 10-27-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ShotOfWSC (Post 52743)
Congrats guys on choosing one of the best rates in the Navy. I'm IT3 Harmon, and if you have any questions about the rate and/or what we do, just let me know.

Future Sailor Ski here. My rating is IT and my ship date is 20150224. I have a lot of questions regarding the IT rating as it is what I got. My main question is: what is life like as a Navy IT? (I signed 6 yr)

Tay 11-01-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 56448)
I got reclassified as IT(thankfully!), lots of good info here as to IT A school. Can someone tell me what A school is like, I've heard that there are tons of rules and they take all of your civilian clothes and electronics (besides phone) when you check in, is that true? Ive been in the Navy for 7 months so hopefully I can get out of that. Where I am now we have 0 rules and I can leave base whenever I want, and it's pretty awesome....

I'm in A school now and they don't take your electronics or civvies.

rjgrant 12-22-2015 05:10 AM

Hooyah Communicators! IT is a great rate, and you should be proud to wear your sparks once you earn them! I've been stationed on several ships in SD, Hawai'i (NCTAMS), and a ship in Japan. Any questions, let me know.

-ITC


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