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scalawa 11-23-2013 09:29 AM

HM to doctor
 
are there any stories of HM Enlisted and then studing to become a doctor or a dentist?

sweetmtn 11-23-2013 10:52 AM

You must remember that the doctors are all officers...you can get your basic college done while enlisted..but you would have to apply I would think for OCS as you would have to go to medical school. Not sure I have seen that one in the OCS course offered...maybe Guppy will come along and have more info.

jzhaun 11-23-2013 11:04 AM

There are programs kind of like that, but as far as I know, none for doctor.

I know there's one for nursing, and another for PA/Pharmacology/a bunch of other specialties. All of these involve the Navy paying you to go to college for this degree and then serving a number of years as an officer.

LT Guppy 11-23-2013 11:34 AM

Doctors go to ODS (Officer Development School), and you have to have your medical degree in order to be selected.

Diesirae27 11-23-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scalawa (Post 38357)
are there any stories of HM Enlisted and then studing to become a doctor or a dentist?

Here is one way to go from HM to Doctor

http://www.sta-21.navy.mil/

notjustaUSNwife 11-23-2013 03:13 PM

One of the emergency physicians I worked with when I volunteered at the Naval Hospital started as an HM, did his bachelor's while enlisted, and the Navy sent him to medical school once he got accepted. I'm not sure what program he used but it's possible. A doctor my husband worked with a doctor in Afghanistan went HM to RN to DO. You could also choose to apply to the PA program after a certain amount of time as an HM and at a certain rank. That could be less time consuming and the use of PA's is increasing. I talked to a doctor about the benefits of PA vs. MD or DO when I was considering going that route with my life. Her suggestion was to become a PA.

FutureHM 11-23-2013 09:15 PM

HPSP, AMA, STA-21, and a lot more health programs can get you to become an Officer in the medical field.

Look up ODS as well and you might be able to get more information there.

HMYert 11-24-2013 12:22 PM

Ok, I just want to make sure that I understand this. What I am reading is that after a certain time in my rate and after a certain time in rank I can apply to become something like an officer candidate for nursing where the Navy would then pay for me to go ge my RN and upon completion of my RN I would then have to serve as an officer in the Nursing Corp for a certain amount of time? If this is correct does any one know what program this is and what it is called. Cause that is exactly what I am hoping to do.

sweetmtn 11-24-2013 02:06 PM

Here is the link to the official STA-21 program, then just scroll down and click on the link for the nursing corp:

http://www.sta-21.navy.mil/program_options.asp

FutureHM 11-24-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HMYert (Post 38382)
Ok, I just want to make sure that I understand this. What I am reading is that after a certain time in my rate and after a certain time in rank I can apply to become something like an officer candidate for nursing where the Navy would then pay for me to go ge my RN and upon completion of my RN I would then have to serve as an officer in the Nursing Corp for a certain amount of time? If this is correct does any one know what program this is and what it is called. Cause that is exactly what I am hoping to do.

Yes, yes, and yes. Recommended you get some college credits in before you apply for the program. The program is called STA-21. At least that's the most popular one. There are A LOT of programs that do the same thing to be a medical officer. Just have to do some research. I already listed some beforehand.

HMYert 11-24-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FutureHM (Post 38390)
Yes, yes, and yes. Recommended you get some college credits in before you apply for the program. The program is called STA-21. At least that's the most popular one. There are A LOT of programs that do the same thing to be a medical officer. Just have to do some research. I already listed some beforehand.

I already have a Master's Degree right now. I just need some prereq's for Nursing. But I looked at that sight and it said it wanted SAT or ACT scores within the last 3 years. I am 29 years old. It has been over 10 years since I took those. Is that waiverable since I have advanced degrees or do I need to retake them in order to be considered for this program when the time comes?

Diesirae27 11-24-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HMYert (Post 38393)
I already have a Master's Degree right now. I just need some prereq's for Nursing. But I looked at that sight and it said it wanted SAT or ACT scores within the last 3 years. I am 29 years old. It has been over 10 years since I took those. Is that waiverable since I have advanced degrees or do I need to retake them in order to be considered for this program when the time comes?

I have the same question Yert and just plan on taking the SAT again...should be possible to take it again right? ;)

Did some digging and found this:

Q: Am I eligible to apply for STA-21 if I already have a Baccalaureate Degree?
A: No. As stated in OPNAVINST 1420.1(series), individuals who have already obtained their baccalaureate degree are not eligible for STA-21 and should apply directly for OCS. OCS application procedures are found in Chapter 4 of 1420.1(series).

FutureHM 11-25-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HMYert (Post 38393)
I already have a Master's Degree right now. I just need some prereq's for Nursing. But I looked at that sight and it said it wanted SAT or ACT scores within the last 3 years. I am 29 years old. It has been over 10 years since I took those. Is that waiverable since I have advanced degrees or do I need to retake them in order to be considered for this program when the time comes?

I would take your SAT and ACT tests when you have the time and confidence to do so while active duty. It isn't waiverable, and it isn't a bid deal either. Just have to fit it in with all the other stuff you have to deal with.

As for what Deisirae27 said, I need to look into that myself. It makes sense though since the Navy wouldn't need to pay for you to go to school since you already have a degree.

notjustaUSNwife 11-25-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FutureHM (Post 38403)
I would take your SAT and ACT tests when you have the time and confidence to do so while active duty. It isn't waiverable, and it isn't a bid deal either. Just have to fit it in with all the other stuff you have to deal with.

As for what Deisirae27 said, I need to look into that myself. It makes sense though since the Navy wouldn't need to pay for you to go to school since you already have a degree.

You can put in an application directly to OCS...if you don't care about being in the medical field. If you want to practice medicine you need a degree in the medical field to put in a direct application to ODS (what medical officers go to).

HMYert 11-25-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by notjustaUSNwife (Post 38405)
You can put in an application directly to OCS...if you don't care about being in the medical field. If you want to practice medicine you need a degree in the medical field to put in a direct application to ODS (what medical officers go to).

I spoke to an officer recruiter and he told me about programs MSCIPP and MECP. These are programs that allow active duty personnel to work towards a medical degree and then once obtained be commissioned. Below are the links. This is definitely what I am gonna do.

MECP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...ngProgram.aspx

MSCIPP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...Assistant.aspx

notjustaUSNwife 11-25-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HMYert (Post 38408)
I spoke to an officer recruiter and he told me about programs MSCIPP and MECP. These are programs that allow active duty personnel to work towards a medical degree and then once obtained be commissioned. Below are the links. This is definitely what I am gonna do.

MECP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...ngProgram.aspx

MSCIPP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...Assistant.aspx

I'm aware of both of those programs. I know people that have gone through both. However, neither are considered a direct commission which is what I was referring to when I said you had to have a degree first.

FutureHM 11-25-2013 04:26 PM

Either way HMYert found what he needed and he's good to go. Looking into the stuff as well since I'm interested so i thank you for that.

HMYert 11-25-2013 05:06 PM

No problem FutureHM. When do you ship again?

FutureHM 11-25-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HMYert (Post 38417)
No problem FutureHM. When do you ship again?

December 9th. Two more weeks.

Diesirae27 11-25-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMYert (Post 38408)
I spoke to an officer recruiter and he told me about programs MSCIPP and MECP. These are programs that allow active duty personnel to work towards a medical degree and then once obtained be commissioned. Below are the links. This is definitely what I am gonna do.

MECP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...ngProgram.aspx

MSCIPP
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmed...Assistant.aspx

Wow..there's so many programs available. I didn't come across these in my searches. THanks!


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