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Jilliantw5 02-18-2013 10:39 AM

2013 bootcamp hair regulations
 
I'm shipping out in June for bootcamp. I heard that they stopped cutting girls hair in bootcamp. Is this true? If it isn't how can I get around this. My recuriter never told me I had to cut my hair till after meps, therefore I was screwed. Whether its just hair or not it's a big deal for me and I'd rather not cut it. I was thinking of getting a weave and then after graduation just taking it out. Would this work? I need opinions so let me know.

NavyGirlRecruit 02-18-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jilliantw5 (Post 27579)
I'm shipping out in June for bootcamp. I heard that they stopped cutting girls hair in bootcamp. Is this true? If it isn't how can I get around this. My recuriter never told me I had to cut my hair till after meps, therefore I was screwed. Whether its just hair or not it's a big deal for me and I'd rather not cut it. I was thinking of getting a weave and then after graduation just taking it out. Would this work? I need opinions so let me know.

I leave in September and have been wondering the same thing. it's hard Cuz I need to know from a females perspective but I did ask one girl and was told tht ppl have gone to boot camp with short sew ins and the rdc's knew but didn't make them take it out..you just have to get some weave thts easy to manage and can last cuz you can't have flat irons til graduation. I hope tht helps

hellokitty 02-18-2013 12:46 PM

It seems like this rumor never goes away. Yes you still have to cut your hair.

sweetmtn 02-18-2013 01:38 PM

Here is the "official" rules:
b. Women. Hairstyles shall not be outrageously
multicolored or faddish, to include shaved portions of the
scalp (other than the neckline), or have designs cut or
braided into the hair. Hair coloring must look natural and
complement the individual. Haircuts and styles shall
present a balanced appearance. Lopsided and extremely
asymmetrical styles are not authorized. Ponytails,
pigtails, widely spaced individual hanging locks, and
braids which protrude from the head, are not authorized.
Multiple braids are authorized. Braided hairstyles shall
be conservative and conform to the guidelines listed
herein. When a hairstyle of multiple braids is worn,
braids shall be of uniform dimension, small in diameter
(approx. 1/4 inch), and tightly interwoven to present a
neat, professional, well groomed appearance. Foreign
material (i.e., beads, decorative items) shall not be
braided into the hair. Short hair may be braided in
symmetrical fore and aft rows (corn rowing) which minimize
scalp exposure. Corn row ends shall not protrude from the
head, and shall be secured only with inconspicuous rubber
bands that match the color of the hair. Appropriateness of
a hairstyle shall also be judged by its appearance when
headgear is worn. All headgear shall fit snugly and
comfortably around the largest part of the head without
distortion or excessive gaps. Hair shall not show from
under the front of the brim of the combination hat,
garrison, or command ball caps. Hairstyles which do not
allow headgear to be worn in this manner, or which
interfere with the proper wear of protective masks or
equipment are prohibited. When in uniform, the hair may
touch, but not fall below a horizontal line level with the
lower edge of the back of the collar. With jumper uniforms,
hair may extend a maximum of 1-1/2 inches below the
top of the jumper collar. Long hair, including braids,
which fall below the lower edge of the collar shall be
neatly and inconspicuously fastened, pinned, or secured to
the head. No portion of the bulk of the hair as measured
from the scalp will exceed approximately 2 inches. <Figure
2-2-2> refers. A maximum of two small barrettes/combs/
clips, similar to hair color, may be used in the hair.
Additional bobby pins or rubber bands matching hair color
may be used to hold hair in place, if necessary. Fabric
elastics bands are not authorized. Hair ornaments
shall not present a safety or FOD (Foreign Object Damage)
hazard. Hair nets shall not be worn unless authorized
for a specific type of duty.

HOWEVER! Some females have been allowed to have their hair braided or in short weaves..BUT, it is NOT uncommon to have some RDC's(instructors) mandate your hair taken out of the weave and cut to regs. Just understand that the navy is the ONLY branch of the service that still requires females to have their hair cut! This has NOT changed and is not expected to change any time soon or in the near future. My suggestion to you if you have a major problem with them cutting your hair..1 have it cut prior to going to boot to fit the regulations, 2 try and see if you can have a weave done to fit the regulations, 3 deal with what ever comes at boot, 4 dont enlist.
Understand it is just hair..it will grow back!


Jilliantw5 02-18-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyGirlRecruit (Post 27581)
I leave in September and have been wondering the same thing. it's hard Cuz I need to know from a females perspective but I did ask one girl and was told tht ppl have gone to boot camp with short sew ins and the rdc's knew but didn't make them take it out..you just have to get some weave thts easy to manage and can last cuz you can't have flat irons til graduation. I hope tht helps

Yeah. I mean I have heard the same things, so that's why I don't know what to do. My recruiters a man, so obviously he does not care to much about this situation, because to them it's "just hair". I guess ill just talk to them and see what they say.

sweetmtn 02-19-2013 11:15 PM

My friends daughter went through boot not that long ago..she cut her hair to what she thought was the regs before she went...they cut it again anyway...several girls in her division had weaves and had to take them out and their hair was cut...just saying...all depends on your RDC...if you get a hard ass one..you will be seeing your hair cut off.
The ONLY branch of military that does NOT cut females hair is the Army! My sons girlfriend graduated army boot with her hair up in a bun, but when she took it out it was down past her butt!

dascolbert 02-20-2013 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jilliantw5 (Post 27579)
I'm shipping out in June for bootcamp. I heard that they stopped cutting girls hair in bootcamp. Is this true? If it isn't how can I get around this. My recuriter never told me I had to cut my hair till after meps, therefore I was screwed. Whether its just hair or not it's a big deal for me and I'd rather not cut it. I was thinking of getting a weave and then after graduation just taking it out. Would this work? I need opinions so let me know.

Wait, you joined the military and didn't think you had to cut your hair? Pfft. :P
What's a little hair for America? I'm a male, I'll be losing more hair than you.

llamayamaa 02-20-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dascolbert (Post 27698)
Wait, you joined the military and didn't think you had to cut your hair? Pfft. :P
What's a little hair for America? I'm a male, I'll be losing more hair than you.

"Really, guy?"

djhaugen 02-26-2013 01:11 PM

I was worried about this too! If you do cut your hair, start taking Vitamin E after basic and that hair will be back in no time! I'm waiting until I get there to cut mine (I will look like a mess anyway).
My recruiter is a female so this was the best advise she could give me.

shannoneliz 02-26-2013 05:24 PM

If you don't want them to cut your hair in boot, make sure you cut it short enough so that it'll meet regs the entire time you're there 'cause you'll be going to get haircuts a few times. I cut mine about chin length before I left and they didn't touch mine.

cire 02-26-2013 07:18 PM

If your hair is that important to you, then don't join the military. Everyone makes sacrifices to be in the military, your hair is no difference. The recruiter probably didn't say anything because he (and the Navy) can care less about your hair. You don't join a hair club, you are joining the military.


but don't worry, you are NOT the only one who thinks that. When I went through boot camp you would NEVER see more girls crying than on hair cutting days.. lol it was pretty funny

TYWong 02-27-2013 12:33 AM

I have super long hair, and I was joking around with some future sailors about entertaining the thought of buzzing all my hair off and going all GI Jane, and someone said something along the lines of 'You're not allowed to do that' I wasn't really paying attention to this comment because I was then seriously contemplating it. Wonder if it's true?

shannoneliz 02-27-2013 12:49 AM

That's true, actually. "Hairstyles shall not be outrageously multicolored or faddish, to include shaved portions of the scalp (other than the neckline)"

TYWong 02-27-2013 01:31 AM

Aw man, having my dreams crushed. Haha!

I guess I'll be going in with short hair. Seeing more and more ladies just hack all their hair off. Makes sense when you only get a couple minutes to hygiene and you don't want to be the last one out of the head...

shannoneliz 02-27-2013 01:47 AM

Yeah, I definitely don't miss that rush in and out of the head. I started taking my toothbrush to the shower 'cause I never had time to brush my teeth at night otherwise, lol. Was a bit of a shock the day of graduation when we actually had time to get ready and were allowed shampoo (my division was only allowed bodywash until after battle stations) and hairdryers and straighteners and makeup...everyone looked 100% better.

Mparker181 10-13-2013 11:31 PM

Do females still have to get there haircutt? I've been hearing a few different things recently

sweetmtn 10-13-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mparker181 (Post 36704)
Do females still have to get there haircutt? I've been hearing a few different things recently

YES! The navy is the ONLY branch of the military that requires females to cut their hair...

Mparker181 10-14-2013 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetmtn (Post 36705)
YES! The navy is the ONLY branch of the military that requires females to cut their hair...

but i've been hearing more and more chatter that its changing

Soccer_cat 10-14-2013 01:56 AM

Graduated in August. Still cutting hair. You get a few haircuts in bc if it starts touching collar. I cut mine short before I went. Don't be the girl who cries after they chop your hair. Cut it before and donate it.

shannoneliz 10-14-2013 03:10 AM

That rumor has been going around since before I went to boot camp. Just expect that your hair's gonna get cut.

Temen 10-14-2013 04:51 AM

I'm a guy, so maybe my view is bias.

The way I see it is that you are going into basic training for the military. You are no different from the rest of the recruits. Everyone is going to get their hair cut. No one is going to look their best. If you are worried about how you look during basic training, YOU HAVE YOUR PRIORITIES WRONG. There's more important things to be using your precious few minutes of free time on. Your hair will grow back and you can worry about your appearance once you graduate and make it to your A-School. Everyone has gone through what you will go through.

Mparker181 10-14-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Temen (Post 36713)
I'm a guy, so maybe my view is bias.

The way I see it is that you are going into basic training for the military. You are no different from the rest of the recruits. Everyone is going to get their hair cut. No one is going to look their best. If you are worried about how you look during basic training, YOU HAVE YOUR PRIORITIES WRONG. There's more important things to be using your precious few minutes of free time on. Your hair will grow back and you can worry about your appearance once you graduate and make it to your A-School. Everyone has gone through what you will go through.

Um excuse me, if I joined the military my priorities aren't wrong. It was a honest question. My hair is already short by the way so before you go on a rant think about what you;re saying. Second, the Navy is the only branch you have to cut your hair for, and since this rumor has been going on for months if not years, again I WAS CURIOUS.

sweetmtn 10-14-2013 12:37 PM

That is the problem with RUMORS...they cause a lot of unneeded worry and concern. That rumor has been going on since before my son went in MANY years ago! Rumors start mostly for WISHFUL thinking! IF and I do mean IF it ever changes..it will be in the regulations and announced by the very top officials in the Navy. Basically females joining the Navy should not care one way or the other if their hair is cut or not..if that is a problem, then join another branch that doesnt cut your hair..like the Army. Oh and i was wrong above...the Marines also cut females hair off..
REMEMBER THIS...on this site we do NOT sugar coat ANYTHING! You ask a question you will be told the truth, and many times many wont like what you hear!

BubbaGumps64 10-14-2013 02:05 PM

Actually the Navy is the only branch that makes females cut their hair. The Air Force, Marines, Army, and Coast Guard don't cut females hair they can wear it in a bun.

LT Guppy 10-14-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetmtn (Post 36732)
That is the problem with RUMORS...they cause a lot of unneeded worry and concern. That rumor has been going on since before my son went in MANY years ago! Rumors start mostly for WISHFUL thinking! IF and I do mean IF it ever changes..it will be in the regulations and announced by the very top officials in the Navy. Basically females joining the Navy should not care one way or the other if their hair is cut or not..if that is a problem, then join another branch that doesnt cut your hair..like the Army. Oh and i was wrong above...the Marines also cut females hair off..
REMEMBER THIS...on this site we do NOT sugar coat ANYTHING! You ask a question you will be told the truth, and many times many wont like what you hear!

I'll disagree with this.
I'm female. I'm in the navy. And I absolutely hated that they made me cut 18 inches off my hair.
And I hated it every day for the months it took me to grow it out long enough to put in a nice bun.
And I hate that it still isn't long enough yet to do my preferred hair styles.

For better or worse, hair is a big identifying feature for a lot of females. So, yes, the navy makes you cut your hair, and if you want to join, that's something you have to deal with. But that doesn't mean you have to be happy about it.

llamayamaa 10-14-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetmtn (Post 36732)
That is the problem with RUMORS...they cause a lot of unneeded worry and concern. That rumor has been going on since before my son went in MANY years ago! Rumors start mostly for WISHFUL thinking! IF and I do mean IF it ever changes..it will be in the regulations and announced by the very top officials in the Navy. Basically females joining the Navy should not care one way or the other if their hair is cut or not..if that is a problem, then join another branch that doesnt cut your hair..like the Army. Oh and i was wrong above...the Marines also cut females hair off..
REMEMBER THIS...on this site we do NOT sugar coat ANYTHING! You ask a question you will be told the truth, and many times many wont like what you hear!

I think there's quite a difference between not sugar coating an answer and being judgmental in your answer. She (I'm assuming) simply asked if females still had to get their hair cut. A non-sugar coated answer would have simply been "yes." It was the judgmental responses that are upsetting. Telling someone they have their priorities wrong or that they're concerned about the wrong things when they ask a simple question like haircuts can hardly be considered "not sugar coating"--- it's just mean. Maybe they're just curious, or trying to be well informed.

Furthermore, most of the responses on this entire navydep forum are speculation and rumors- people declaring the way something operates in the military simply because that's what happened to them or someone they know. Rules and regulations are constantly changing and have exceptions, just because something happened a certain way for one person doesn't mean it's set in stone for everyone.

By all means, people want honest answers when they ask questions. But people tend to inject their own opinions and biases into their answers, which seams to be the case in this thread.

Mparker181 10-14-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by llamayamaa (Post 36737)
I think there's quite a difference between not sugar coating an answer and being judgmental in your answer. She (I'm assuming) simply asked if females still had to get their hair cut. A non-sugar coated answer would have simply been "yes." It was the judgmental responses that are upsetting. Telling someone they have their priorities wrong or that they're concerned about the wrong things when they ask a simple question like haircuts can hardly be considered "not sugar coating"--- it's just mean. Maybe they're just curious, or trying to be well informed.

Furthermore, most of the responses on this entire navydep forum are speculation and rumors- people declaring the way something operates in the military simply because that's what happened to them or someone they know. Rules and regulations are constantly changing and have exceptions, just because something happened a certain way for one person doesn't mean it's set in stone for everyone.

By all means, people want honest answers when they ask questions. But people tend to inject their own opinions and biases into their answers, which seams to be the case in this thread.


Exactly this, thank you!

sweetmtn 10-14-2013 08:29 PM

It seems I HAD to go further to answer the question...AGAIN. My first response to the question was a simple "YES! The navy is the ONLY branch of the military that requires females to cut their hair... " HOWEVER...that simple answer was questioned AGAIN. I dont know how many times or ways to say the same thing over and over again. So if you think I am getting snarky about it..it gets rather repetitive to get repeating ones self. IF and when the rules change..we will post them as soon as the navy makes it official in their rules.

Mparker181 10-14-2013 09:07 PM

The last time this thread was even brought up was in February. So things can change. Pardon me for being curious. A simple "the rules haven't changed" was all that was needed. If you don't want to give repetitive answers, don't answer repetitive questions.

jzhaun 10-14-2013 09:18 PM

While this thread has been dead since February, that question does pop up quite frequently. I've seen it at least 10 times and I haven't even been on here that long. Any thread that asks anything about hair will have it at least once as well as many of the ask the new graduates threads.

That plus the "I heard they're extending bootcamp to X number of weeks" . . . nope, the rumors persist but nothing actually changes.

tiffanynacole 10-15-2013 08:00 AM

the last time it had been asked was 8 months ago. i can understand being curious.

AyeeYoAP 10-15-2013 02:37 PM

I went to bootcamp w. a sew in. There was one girl in my division who also had a sew in and another one had a wig.

bosslady718 10-22-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AyeeYoAP (Post 36770)
I went to bootcamp w. a sew in. There was one girl in my division who also had a sew in and another one had a wig.



ok so you wore a sew in!! did they have you take it out ???

I ship out DEC(2013) dont mind cutting it at all but if there was a possible way around it I would love that!!!

FYI Thanks for the info EVERYONE :drunksailor:

AyeeYoAP 10-22-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bosslady718 (Post 36979)
ok so you wore a sew in!! did they have you take it out ???

I ship out DEC(2013) dont mind cutting it at all but if there was a possible way around it I would love that!!!

FYI Thanks for the info EVERYONE :drunksailor:

Nope. My friend helped me take it out I think... after taps the Saturday before gradution so I could have time during holiday routine the next day to wash it and comb it out... etc! I wrote a letter to my mom telling her to schedule me a hair appointment for as soon as graduation ended. I literally spent all my liberty getting another sew in lol

Some MEPS will make you take it out. I know the one in Jacksonville for sure will make you do it bkuz thats what happened to one of the girls i went to A School with.

Rusk 10-22-2013 01:11 PM

It's just hair, get it cut.. easy day....

bosslady718 10-23-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AyeeYoAP (Post 36987)
Nope. My friend helped me take it out I think... after taps the Saturday before gradution so I could have time during holiday routine the next day to wash it and comb it out... etc! I wrote a letter to my mom telling her to schedule me a hair appointment for as soon as graduation ended. I literally spent all my liberty getting another sew in lol

Some MEPS will make you take it out. I know the one in Jacksonville for sure will make you do it bkuz thats what happened to one of the girls i went to A School with.

:What: lol ok thanks

notjustaUSNwife 10-23-2013 07:20 PM

I would just plan to get it cut if it were me. Seems like a lot of wasted money if you get a sew in and they make you take it out. Personally, I'm chopping mine off as short as I can with it still being in regs before I leave. I can't stand hair in my face when I run and do physical activity and that's exactly what it will do if it's chin length.

AyeeYoAP 10-24-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notjustaUSNwife (Post 37017)
I would just plan to get it cut if it were me. Seems like a lot of wasted money if you get a sew in and they make you take it out. Personally, I'm chopping mine off as short as I can with it still being in regs before I leave. I can't stand hair in my face when I run and do physical activity and that's exactly what it will do if it's chin length.

Actually, for girls like myself who are black and have relaxed hair a sew in is the BEST thing to do in this situation. And even if someone like me were to get one and have it taken out, trust me, its better to have at least tried. Our hair requires A LOT of maintenance and sew ins reduce that GREATLY! Thats why I got one.

And our hair grows slower than other ethnicitys so cutting our hair, especially if its long, is kinda a big deal :/

delucabv23 10-25-2013 07:07 AM

Well unfortunately...no one can really predict what the RDC's are going to do to our hair....if it's longer than regulations, it will be cut. If it meets regulations, the RDC may stil have you get it cut even shorter, just to screw with your head....who knows...I already cut my hair short...letting it grow out incase they decide to make me cut it again during P-days...it's only hair...it'll grow back eventually

D.Brothers 10-25-2013 07:50 AM

I keep my hair buzzed, so it doesn't really matter to me anyway. All I can say is just expect to get your hair cut... if they don't then great. I'm even expecting them to cut mine too

sweetmtn 10-25-2013 10:10 AM

As been stated several times in this post...it is up to the RDC if your hair is getting cut at boot. One thing to keep in mind..the RDC's know you were told about the regulations on hair...if they feel like it, they will make you take out a weave or sew in to cut it anyway...and THAT will put a target on your back as someone who refused to listen to the rules...just something to think about as they will look for any reason to come down on you....and if you cry about it when they do it..wow...I would hate to be in your shoes!

ravenwitmer 02-21-2014 07:50 AM

Im a femele and was wondering just how short I may get my hair...?

Atom_breaker 02-21-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenwitmer (Post 41455)
Im a femele and was wondering just how short I may get my hair...?

Above the collar. But not so short that it is considered "faddish"

classified9 02-21-2014 08:10 AM

Wait... I didn't sign up to get my haircut! I'm a male, you mean they're going to cut all of it off at boot camp!!!11!!1!1!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!

:running20stick20man

LT Guppy 02-21-2014 10:39 AM

It's no longer 2013, please start a new thread if you wish to continue this discussion. But the rules haven't changed :)


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