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jbpr77 02-18-2017 07:32 PM

Choosing submarine class on Sub School.
 
Greetings,

I'm wondering about if is possible that I can choose one specific Submarine Class, such as SSBN Class later on Submarine School, or they send me to any submarine class that they want. I'll be very greatful for any information or advice.

Regards,

JGB

CoolHandL 02-18-2017 08:51 PM

You don't say what school. Ultimately it is needs of the Navy. You may have an opportunity to state a preference. The way it worked in my son's STS class, there were a certain number of billets in various homeports. They got to choose locations, in order of class rank, but not the boat. That mostly amounts to choosing the type of boat since all the boomers are in Kings Bay and Kitsap.

jbpr77 02-19-2017 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolHandL (Post 59557)
You don't say what school. Ultimately it is needs of the Navy. You may have an opportunity to state a preference. The way it worked in my son's STS class, there were a certain number of billets in various homeports. They got to choose locations, in order of class rank, but not the boat. That mostly amounts to choosing the type of boat since all the boomers are in Kings Bay and Kitsap.

Greetings,

I have been trusting that I can choose SSBN submarine if I decide to being a YNS. But in my first tour it's impossible to do, in accordance with what you say.
Under that premise I think I should select another job. Because I don't want to be submerged underwater up to nine months for three to four years.

Regards,

JGB

sweetmtn 02-19-2017 11:46 AM

Not being able to really choose which type of sub was the very reason my son as a nuke went surface on a carrier...

CoolHandL 02-19-2017 05:05 PM

Ah, OK. With YNS you would spend a couple of months in Meridian, MS then just go up to Groton for BESS. I don't know how assignments would work from there, esp. if YNS is not separate in A school. BESS is pretty short. They made some change in YNS recently, but I don't really understand the implications.
The YN is an important guy on the boat.
Attack subs do 6-8 month deployments, but on something like an 18 month cycle, so they go about a year in port or the shipyard, during which they will do short underways. For that matter, you could end up on a PCU or a boat going into the yard for extended maintenance, and go a couple years without much sea time. But surface ships are pretty much the same way, you would just have better communications and a bit more living space.
Boomers go out for shorter durations, but more often. SSNs and SSGNs get to make port calls, SSBNs don't.
To be guaranteed an Ohio class, you would have to be something like an MT.

Join the Navy, see the world. 3/4 of it is water.

jbpr77 02-19-2017 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolHandL (Post 59563)
Ah, OK. With YNS you would spend a couple of months in Meridian, MS then just go up to Groton for BESS. I don't know how assignments would work from there, esp. if YNS is not separate in A school. BESS is pretty short. They made some change in YNS recently, but I don't really understand the implications.
The YN is an important guy on the boat.
Attack subs do 6-8 month deployments, but on something like an 18 month cycle, so they go about a year in port or the shipyard, during which they will do short underways. For that matter, you could end up on a PCU or a boat going into the yard for extended maintenance, and go a couple years without much sea time. But surface ships are pretty much the same way, you would just have better communications and a bit more living space.
Boomers go out for shorter durations, but more often. SSNs and SSGNs get to make port calls, SSBNs don't.
To be guaranteed an Ohio class, you would have to be something like an MT.

Join the Navy, see the world. 3/4 of it is water.


Thanks a lot for this information.I need to do maybe one last question about how is sea duty rotation schedule. If first or second or third sea duty tour on any job require from 3 to 5 years each one, how is the time period divided into sea/port period?. For example, first sea tour is about 4 years, then from these 4 years you can spend 10 months on a ship and later 2 months on port. Second year the same schedule and so forth, until finish first 4 years sea tour. It's is correct?.

Regards,

JGB

FlyNavy 02-19-2017 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jbpr77 (Post 59564)
Thanks a lot for this information.I need to do maybe one last question about how is sea duty rotation schedule. If first or second or third sea duty tour on any job require from 3 to 5 years each one, how is the time period divided into sea/port period?. For example, first sea tour is about 4 years, then from these 4 years you can spend 10 months on a ship and later 2 months on port. Second year the same schedule and so forth, until finish first 4 years sea tour. It's is correct?.

Regards,

JGB

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking here. The sea/shore rotation is how long you'll be a part of a certain command. IE 4 years on a boat, 3 at a shore command, etc, etc. The latter part of your post seems like it's asking maybe how often do you go out to sea, which just totally depends on your ships schedule.

If you can clarify your question a bit maybe we could be more help.

/r
CTT1

jbpr77 02-20-2017 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTT1(SW)Griffin (Post 59565)
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking here. The sea/shore rotation is how long you'll be a part of a certain command. IE 4 years on a boat, 3 at a shore command, etc, etc. The latter part of your post seems like it's asking maybe how often do you go out to sea, which just totally depends on your ships schedule.

If you can clarify your question a bit maybe we could be more help.

/r
CTT1

Greetings,

Yes, I understand how is sea/shore duty rotations. But I'm not clear about how often ships go out to sea and then they come back home port. It's depends on the ship schedule and it's not the same schedule to all ships but to understand how these different schedules can vary, how has been your experience with those schedules, or any experience that you know about different ships schedules?

Regards,

JGB

FlyNavy 02-20-2017 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbpr77 (Post 59567)
Greetings,

Yes, I understand how is sea/shore duty rotations. But I'm not clear about how often ships go out to sea and then they come back home port. It's depends on the ship schedule and it's not the same schedule to all ships but to understand how these different schedules can vary, how has been your experience with those schedules, or any experience that you know about different ships schedules?

Regards,

JGB

It really varies throughout the year. The ships are constantly going through maintenance periods, training, exercises, you name it. So there really isn't a baseline of how often you'll be back and forth. It's flexible.

As a Submariner however, you'll do crew rotations. So the time your crew isn't on the boat, you obviously won't be going underway.

/r
CTT1

scott.henry 06-28-2017 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTT1(SW)Griffin (Post 59569)
It really varies throughout the year. The ships are constantly going through maintenance periods, training, exercises, you name it. So there really isn't a baseline of how often you'll be back and forth. It's flexible.

As a Submariner however, you'll do crew rotations. So the time your crew isn't on the boat, you obviously won't be going underway.

/r
CTT1

The crew rotation is only for SSBN/SSGN. Fast boats do not rotate crews. I have been on both types and I will take a fast boat any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Boomers have their perks like a little more space and the whole crew swap thing, but they don't go anywhere. They poke holes in the water for 3 months and come home. Also, because of the 2 crew thing, there is really no ownership. Everything is a "Blue Crew problem" or a "Gold Crew problem." There's a lot of passing the buck. Also, in my humble opinion, that 3 months away from the boat is very detrimental to your operating proficiency. You get rusty pretty quick once you're away from the boat and not in an operational mindset.


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